2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Wow, Max lost all of his time at Nouvelle chicane, over 0.2s time loss, the car doesn't seem as good over there, he was losing a lot of time there in practice too.

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AR3-GP wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:23
I know they say PU doesn't matter here but it still does. Just less than other places. What would he do with a fresh engine and less weight?
Well the weight alone would take them a tenth or so (assuming they haven't been able to get down to the limit at Monaco specifically due to lack of SLM etc)

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euv2 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:29
Wow, Max lost all of his time at Nouvelle chicane, over 0.2s time loss, the car doesn't seem as good over there, he was losing a lot of time there in practice too.
The redbull has been struggling with kerb with its weight, the lighter the car the easiest it is to find a performant suspension setup. Also, we don't know if the upgrade package in Austria fixes that, especially since it is a circuit with a lot of driving on the kerbs

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And people still cannot believe Max has a couple of tenths over the rest…

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avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:40
And people still cannot believe Max has a couple of tenths over the rest…
Well I could believe antonelli being on his level

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organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:42
avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:40
And people still cannot believe Max has a couple of tenths over the rest…
Well I could believe antonelli being on his level
You wouldn't believe Lewis would out qualify Leclerc... but he did :shock: None of Leclerc's previous teammates ever did that.

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SB15 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:43
organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:42
avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:40
And people still cannot believe Max has a couple of tenths over the rest…
Well I could believe antonelli being on his level
You wouldn't believe Lewis would out qualify Leclerc... but he did :shock: None of Leclerc's previous teammates ever did that.
Hmm, not on pure pace

Anyway as I said I think there's a lot to look forward to

Remember the team didn't rule out improving the ride in 2026 already. But we will have to wait and see

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Max loses it on the straights and in the nouvelle chicane. Lap is good everywhere else, solid cornering performance from RB22. ImageImage

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SB15 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:43
organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:42
avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:40
And people still cannot believe Max has a couple of tenths over the rest…
Well I could believe antonelli being on his level
You wouldn't believe Lewis would out qualify Leclerc... but he did :shock: None of Leclerc's previous teammates ever did that.
By far the most overrated driver on the grid. I mean by the fans, especially Scuderia fans who say he is Max equal. Team principals put him 7 th best last year. Nice effort by Lewis although it’s clear Ferrari was pole capable car today. Therefore it is still an underperformance, by both of them. If you actually go several pages back I predicted this outcome exactly saying I wouldnt bet a penny on Ferrari because of their drivers.

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The ride should improve in Austria. They don't need to run as stiff if the car is 6-8 kg lighter.

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organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:44
SB15 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:43
organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:42


Well I could believe antonelli being on his level
You wouldn't believe Lewis would out qualify Leclerc... but he did :shock: None of Leclerc's previous teammates ever did that.
Hmm, not on pure pace

Anyway as I said I think there's a lot to look forward to

Remember the team didn't rule out improving the ride in 2026 already. But we will have to wait and see
Pure pace or not, he still out qualified him.

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avantman wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:54
SB15 wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:43
organic wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:42


Well I could believe antonelli being on his level
You wouldn't believe Lewis would out qualify Leclerc... but he did :shock: None of Leclerc's previous teammates ever did that.
By far the most overrated driver on the grid. I mean by the fans, especially Scuderia fans who say he is Max equal. Team principals put him 7 th best last year. Nice effort by Lewis although it’s clear Ferrari was pole capable car today. Therefore it is still an underperformance, by both of them. If you actually go several pages back I predicted this outcome exactly saying I wouldnt bet a penny on Ferrari because of their drivers.
I don't think he's overrated, his quali results are very strong, but today showed precisely what his flaw is. It's almost as if he gambles on where the limit of grip is in the final moments of qualifying. If the bet pays off he's almost unbeatable, if it doesn't he's in the wall. Someone like Max seems to be able to feel his way around more, which is why he so rarely goes over the limit and can progress with the track.

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Max is the only non-Mercedes driver to be on the front row this season, did it for the 2nd time today, what a weird stat, given the RB22 has generally been 3 or 4th fastest.



I wonder if this is regarding the cars handling or weight or maybe he's referring to both.

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Max has to avoid inside kerb in the chicane which as it turns out is worth 2 tenths if you can jump it. Mercedes and ferrari can, RBR cant.

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Badger wrote:
06 Jun 2026, 17:52
Max loses it on the straights and in the nouvelle chicane. Lap is good everywhere else, solid cornering performance from RB22. https://i.postimg.cc/7Pc4W5PT/speed(7).png https://i.postimg.cc/MHXWjR6x/delta(3).png
Max was more than 1+ tenth clear of anyone in S1 and 0.5+ tenth clear of anyone in S3, in addition, the above plot shows, there is a massive gain through the mickey mouse section (hotel hairpin, fore and aft of it as well, which, calls for superiority with braking since it's downhill) before the bad camber tunnel entry.
Hence I am tempted to ask again, "are we sure the weight reduction hasn't already happened ?".
If not, it just highlights what Marko always kept saying - "Max is worth 2 tenths all by himself, irrespective of the car".