2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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matt_b
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I am a bit confused about this ADUO talk because Lewis just said in his interview with SkySportsF1.

"I think the news came out either yesterday or today that Red Bull have the the most powerful engine, Mercedes second, and then we are behind".

Is this true?

:wtf:

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 18:57
This is an insane joke.
AutoRacer has learned from qualified sources, surprisingly, that it should have been Red Bull-Ford 'elected' as the best ICE of the lot. A flattering result for the newborn Red Bull Powertrains department, with the support of the American manufacturer on a not exactly sweet day in Monaco after Verstappen's breakdown. This will also mean that the Milton Keynes engine manufacturers will not be able to touch the Power Unit, unless significant changes are made to the 2027 hybrid.

The second surprise would be that the dominant Mercedes, credited by all as the best engine, would have obtained ADUO concessions for 2%. Toto Wolff's team can thus access a revised counterpart for both 2026 and 2027.
If it really goes this way, then I will even more dislike Merc.

Valeo
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They want to tell us Mercedes is so far off it gets 2%? :lol:

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lio007 wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:01

If it really goes this way, then I will even more dislike Merc.
The FIA has been bought off, it seems.
#REPEALtheADUO

gearboxtrouble
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The only way this might be true is if Mercedes has had to nerf its engine to comply with the new CR test. That wasn't going to be visible at Monaco but will be a lot more obvious at Barcelona.

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gearboxtrouble wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:05
The only way this might be true is if Mercedes has had to nerf its engine to comply with the new CR test. That wasn't going to be visible at Monaco but will be a lot more obvious at Barcelona.
Yeah, the only way this makes any sense, is if Merc has been hit behind the scenes, making the engine slower lately.

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FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:07
gearboxtrouble wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:05
The only way this might be true is if Mercedes has had to nerf its engine to comply with the new CR test. That wasn't going to be visible at Monaco but will be a lot more obvious at Barcelona.
Yeah, the only way this makes any sense, is if Merc has been hit behind the scenes, making the engine slower lately.
Mercedes said their engine was always legal and they didn't have to change anything.
#REPEALtheADUO

Bill
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 18:57
This is an insane joke.
AutoRacer has learned from qualified sources, surprisingly, that it should have been Red Bull-Ford 'elected' as the best ICE of the lot. A flattering result for the newborn Red Bull Powertrains department, with the support of the American manufacturer on a not exactly sweet day in Monaco after Verstappen's breakdown. This will also mean that the Milton Keynes engine manufacturers will not be able to touch the Power Unit, unless significant changes are made to the 2027 hybrid.

The second surprise would be that the dominant Mercedes, credited by all as the best engine, would have obtained ADUO concessions for 2%. Toto Wolff's team can thus access a revised counterpart for both 2026 and 2027.
christian was boasting of stealing 200 personnel from mercedes so not surprising

gearboxtrouble
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:10
FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:07
gearboxtrouble wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:05
The only way this might be true is if Mercedes has had to nerf its engine to comply with the new CR test. That wasn't going to be visible at Monaco but will be a lot more obvious at Barcelona.
Yeah, the only way this makes any sense, is if Merc has been hit behind the scenes, making the engine slower lately.
Mercedes said their engine was always legal and they didn't have to change anything.
This would be true even if it exceeded the CR because the test only changed after this weekend. It would have been legal under the prior test.

FittingMechanics
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FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 18:18
WTF...


Document makes it sound like they changed the setup, got caught and reverted it, under the red flag.
Working on the car under red flag sounds quite bad. DSQ?

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FittingMechanics wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:12

Working on the car under red flag sounds quite bad. DSQ?
Oscar is not getting a podium today. Maybe next weekend. :lol:
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#REPEALtheADUO

Gillian
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 18:57
This is an insane joke.
AutoRacer has learned from qualified sources, surprisingly, that it should have been Red Bull-Ford 'elected' as the best ICE of the lot. A flattering result for the newborn Red Bull Powertrains department, with the support of the American manufacturer on a not exactly sweet day in Monaco after Verstappen's breakdown. This will also mean that the Milton Keynes engine manufacturers will not be able to touch the Power Unit, unless significant changes are made to the 2027 hybrid.

The second surprise would be that the dominant Mercedes, credited by all as the best engine, would have obtained ADUO concessions for 2%. Toto Wolff's team can thus access a revised counterpart for both 2026 and 2027.
If this is true then I don't know what I am watching. :wtf: It also does not make sense at all for the team to take a risk with the PU this weekend. They should have just taken a fresh one already...

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Considering how annoyed Max was at merc for downplaying their pu during pre season testing, and hes usually honest on where they stand. Im surprised Merc get 2%

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Luscion wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 19:25
Considering how annoyed Max was at merc for downplaying their pu during pre season testing, and hes usually honest on where they stand. Im surprised Merc get 2%
It doesn't add up with the qualified opinions of sources from multiple teams, drivers, and journalist. It seems a little bit rigged, and I don't like to throw around words like that.
#REPEALtheADUO

gearboxtrouble
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The Race is now confirming this. Mercedes gets a level 1 ADUO allowance. I can't understand how this happened. Did Mercedes nerf their engine because of the CR test change? Have RBPT been running the engine below potential for reliability reasons? On one hand RBPT have pulled off a miracle - easily the best new manufacturer effort in modern F1 history. On the other I really hope the team didn't lose out because they lacked the political gamesmanship that Toto brings. Barcelona will answer a lot of questions.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-e ... -revealed/
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