2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[NAPI10]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

It's not a simple solution, and it's basically impossible. Mercedes can't supply engines to five teams on the grid, including themselves, especially since they already want to reduce that number.

As I said at the beginning of the year, no other engine supplier wants to supply engines to Aston Martin, knowing they have Adrian Newey on the team. The only option for AM, besides Honda, with any chance of happening is Audi. However, the chances of Audi agreeing to supply engines are minimal.

Maybe Honda leaves F1, forcing Audi, under FIA rules, to supply engines to AM due to having the fewest customer teams. Or, with more luck, they might make an exception for Audi as a new manufacturer, shifting that responsibility to Ferrari.

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?
If Mclaren can win WC with ‘Merc engines’, why can’t Newey do the same at AM? What’s the reason to take this unwarranted risk.
On top of that, AM has no idea what Honda is cooking at their R&D facility. Have they deployed experienced engineers or kids building some school project. What kind of partnership is this?
I wont blame Honda for this; it’s a self-goal by AM management.

[DGP123]

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?

You do know the announcement was made in May 2023 that Aston & Honda were to link up. What engine was dominating F1 from 22’ onwards? It was Honda. No one even imagined what McLaren were to cook up a couple of years later with the Merc engine, so Aston felt that going with Honda was the best route going forward.

[diffuser]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

It's not a simple solution, and it's basically impossible. Mercedes can't supply engines to five teams on the grid, including themselves, especially since they already want to reduce that number.

As I said at the beginning of the year, no other engine supplier wants to supply engines to Aston Martin, knowing they have Adrian Newey on the team. The only option for AM, besides Honda, with any chance of happening is Audi. However, the chances of Audi agreeing to supply engines are minimal.

Maybe Honda leaves F1, forcing Audi, under FIA rules, to supply engines to AM due to having the fewest customer teams. Or, with more luck, they might make an exception for Audi as a new manufacturer, shifting that responsibility to Ferrari.

He also forgot that Audi and RBPT got more resources allocated to them cause they were "NEW" Manufactures.

[diffuser]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

It's not a simple solution, and it's basically impossible. Mercedes can't supply engines to five teams on the grid, including themselves, especially since they already want to reduce that number.

As I said at the beginning of the year, no other engine supplier wants to supply engines to Aston Martin, knowing they have Adrian Newey on the team. The only option for AM, besides Honda, with any chance of happening is Audi. However, the chances of Audi agreeing to supply engines are minimal.

Maybe Honda leaves F1, forcing Audi, under FIA rules, to supply engines to AM due to having the fewest customer teams. Or, with more luck, they might make an exception for Audi as a new manufacturer, shifting that responsibility to Ferrari.

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?
If Mclaren can win WC with ‘Merc engines’, why can’t Newey do the same at AM? What’s the reason to take this unwarranted risk.
On top of that, AM has no idea what Honda is cooking at their R&D facility. Have they deployed experienced engineers or kids building some school project. What kind of partnership is this?
I wont blame Honda for this; it’s a self-goal by AM management.

• You see the 110 points difference between Merc and McLaren? It's all because Merc is the "de facto works team". So that is the reason why you'd want to set up a works partnership.

• If you asking why Honda? well they were the only one on the outside looking in for a team.

• It is nolonger true that AMR F1 have no idea of what is going on at Honda. They have a team lead by Andy Cowell working out of Honda R&D in Japan. This was probably the biggest mistake made by AMR F1, not having anybody at Honda R&D till it was too late. Presume that Andy Cowell preferred to play team principle than make sure their future PU would be ready

• Either the Koji Watanabe (President Honda/HRC) or Shintaro Orihara (Honda's Trackside General Manager and Chief Engineer) said in March that they brought over some of their most experienced guys from MotoGP to help bolster the ICE team.

• I think they both share blame in that Honda should be more responsible and AMR F1 cause of poor management. Is it possible that that to struggle is not seen as bad in Japanese culture if in the end you come out on top?

[etusch]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

It's not a simple solution, and it's basically impossible. Mercedes can't supply engines to five teams on the grid, including themselves, especially since they already want to reduce that number.

As I said at the beginning of the year, no other engine supplier wants to supply engines to Aston Martin, knowing they have Adrian Newey on the team. The only option for AM, besides Honda, with any chance of happening is Audi. However, the chances of Audi agreeing to supply engines are minimal.

Maybe Honda leaves F1, forcing Audi, under FIA rules, to supply engines to AM due to having the fewest customer teams. Or, with more luck, they might make an exception for Audi as a new manufacturer, shifting that responsibility to Ferrari.

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?
If Mclaren can win WC with ‘Merc engines’, why can’t Newey do the same at AM? What’s the reason to take this unwarranted risk.
On top of that, AM has no idea what Honda is cooking at their R&D facility. Have they deployed experienced engineers or kids building some school project. What kind of partnership is this?
I wont blame Honda for this; it’s a self-goal by AM management.

Yes it is very obvious that you are not understand.

[Bill]

It's not a simple solution, and it's basically impossible. Mercedes can't supply engines to five teams on the grid, including themselves, especially since they already want to reduce that number.

As I said at the beginning of the year, no other engine supplier wants to supply engines to Aston Martin, knowing they have Adrian Newey on the team. The only option for AM, besides Honda, with any chance of happening is Audi. However, the chances of Audi agreeing to supply engines are minimal.

Maybe Honda leaves F1, forcing Audi, under FIA rules, to supply engines to AM due to having the fewest customer teams. Or, with more luck, they might make an exception for Audi as a new manufacturer, shifting that responsibility to Ferrari.

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?
If Mclaren can win WC with ‘Merc engines’, why can’t Newey do the same at AM? What’s the reason to take this unwarranted risk.
On top of that, AM has no idea what Honda is cooking at their R&D facility. Have they deployed experienced engineers or kids building some school project. What kind of partnership is this?
I wont blame Honda for this; it’s a self-goal by AM management.

Yes it is very obvious that you are not understand.

It took 9 races last year to score a single point .these team has always been --- dreaming about merc engine wont change anything.where are car updates ferrari leapfrog a lot of teams by bringing an update and won.ferrari on power are closer to honda than to redbull.

[ALO_Power]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

Ye but it seems all areas of car are bad. In Monaco it was also bad

[zoroastar]

Simple solution Ditch honda and go to mercedes as customer. bold calls have to be made. most incompetent manufacturer on planet is honda. they should be banned from sport. how can audi be better than them in their first year of sport. deabte should rest here

Ye but it seems all areas of car are bad. In Monaco it was also bad

its difficult to see, but most likely its going to take the power unit more time to "get right" than the rest of the car. if it wasnt for the power unit problems, theyd likely have been bringing updates to the car by now. and wouldve taken less time time to find out the chassis shortcomings. not trying to push blame anywhere, its just whats going on. if newey and the team bring a car thats awful when the spec b comes then we can probably assume theres still a lot of work to be done in calibrations and simulators, but its hard to see the team falling way off the mark with spec b when theres so much that they can see in the field from other teams, for what works and doesnt. but yeah, well just have to wait and see. hopefully honda will be faster than the chassis teams. of course, then we have to talk about a gearbox lol

[zoroastar]

I am still not able to understand, why AM ditched ‘Merc engines’ and decided to go with Honda?
If Mclaren can win WC with ‘Merc engines’, why can’t Newey do the same at AM? What’s the reason to take this unwarranted risk.
On top of that, AM has no idea what Honda is cooking at their R&D facility. Have they deployed experienced engineers or kids building some school project. What kind of partnership is this?
I wont blame Honda for this; it’s a self-goal by AM management.

Yes it is very obvious that you are not understand.

It took 9 races last year to score a single point .these team has always been --- dreaming about merc engine wont change anything.where are car updates ferrari leapfrog a lot of teams by bringing an update and won.ferrari on power are closer to honda than to redbull.

lance scored in the first 2 races of the season last year. alonso was racing in 5th when he crashed in australia. they had a sh$% car but they had a good engine.

[HPD]

Do people really still think that with the best engine, AM can compete in the midfield?
Unfortunately, the reality is very different, and the Monaco debacle was the final nail in the coffin for this project.
As mentioned above, engine, chassis, suspension, energy recovery, and gearbox. How do you solve all of that?
Trying to blame everything on Honda is just hate. The whole team is guilty, and I mean EVERYONE.

[collindsilva]

Do people really still think that with the best engine, AM can compete in the midfield?
Unfortunately, the reality is very different, and the Monaco debacle was the final nail in the coffin for this project.
As mentioned above, engine, chassis, suspension, energy recovery, and gearbox. How do you solve all of that?
Trying to blame everything on Honda is just hate. The whole team is guilty, and I mean EVERYONE.

Its no use pointing fingers now, AMR should work as a team and come out of this difficult situation. However, they are in precarious situation right now. This year is surely a write off and should be a testing season all long.
The Engine is a DUD, Gearbox is cranky and chassis is subpar, The B Spec should be base for next year.
They should test the Engine, Gearbox with the B Spec chassis and aim for higher midfield in 2027.

[Bill]

Yes it is very obvious that you are not understand.

It took 9 races last year to score a single point .these team has always been --- dreaming about merc engine wont change anything.where are car updates ferrari leapfrog a lot of teams by bringing an update and won.ferrari on power are closer to honda than to redbull.

lance scored in the first 2 races of the season last year. alonso was racing in 5th when he crashed in australia. they had a sh$% car but they had a good engine.

Yes they had someone engine why cant the team find their own solution rather look for someone to make them look good.

[etusch]

lance scored in the first 2 races of the season last year. alonso was racing in 5th when he crashed in australia. they had a sh$% car but they had a good engine.

Yes, you're absolutely right. You could choose to consistently score points as a 5th or 6th-place finishing team and enjoy it. I think you prefer AM to remain a mid-pack team, sticking to the familiar scenarios last years. However, suffering today and becoming champion in 2-3 years is much better than scoring points in the middle of the pack. That's the current AM vision, but you're still stuck in the middle of the pack. McLaren is currently scoring points with the Merc engine, but they also say they feel the shortcomings of not being a factory team. Do you think they're happy just because they're scoring points right now?

[hkbruin]

AMR is lacking true leadership. Lawrence Stroll is not and cannot be the person to point this team in the right direction. Newey is a technical fellow and Mike Krack is a management head. Currently there is no one that has the ability to galvanize the team’s morale and inspire them to maximize effort. Until then I don’t see much changing for them this season.

[etusch]

AMR is lacking true leadership. Lawrence Stroll is not and cannot be the person to point this team in the right direction. Newey is a technical fellow and Mike Krack is a management head. Currently there is no one that has the ability to galvanize the team’s morale and inspire them to maximize effort. Until then I don’t see much changing for them this season.

I agree about Stroll. Yes, he's ambitious, but I don't know his abilities about managing the Formula 1 team if he were interfere to team managment too much. (That's the extent of my agreement ) But we can't make such a quick decision about Newey. The person I admire most in this regard, and whom I believe brought Red Bull to its current state, is Horner, and he didn't achieve this in a year or the following year. It's far too early to make a decision on Newey.