2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[sucof]

If the team are officially saying around 8, it’s probably more like 18.

I agree with the idea that the numbers are surely not true. It is every teams interest to not to share correct numebrs and to downplay their own performance.

[dans79]

Even if the numbers were 100% true, the effect would be greater than than what's reported.

[Jambier]

It is a joke right ?
We expect something like 30hp to be meaningful

[sucof]

It is a joke right ?
We expect something like 30hp to be meaningful

Well if according to ADUO Ferrari is around 4% behind in ICE performance, then it is about 20HP.
So +30HP sounds a lot more than a minimum to be meaningful right?
10HP would already mean a lot, as it is not only at acceleration using ICE but also at charging.
And add to all these, that Horsepower is a super simplistic measurement in 2026... You have RPM regions which mean a lot more than others, so where you have the plus, matters. You have fuel consumption as a huge factor, same HP but lower consumption is a win too. And its combination as well.
You have the cooling requirements, so if Ferrari has a new ICE that is +5HP in raw performance, but consumes a little less fuel, needs a bit less cooling, then the overall win in laptime is a lot more what 5HP would bring alone.
We will see if they did a good job.

[dans79]

Yep the real world gains are never as simple as a single number.

[Just_a_fan]

A simple 10hp increase to peak is one thing, raising the entire curve by 10hp is quite another. One might even publicly "boast" of a 10hp peak gain whilst hiding a mid curve rise of multiples of 10hp.

Any additional power available once the car is not grip limited is going to give you a lap time improvement.

[venkyhere]

A simple 10hp increase to peak is one thing, raising the entire curve by 10hp is quite another. One might even publicly "boast" of a 10hp peak gain whilst hiding a mid curve rise of multiples of 10hp.

Any additional power available once the car is not grip limited is going to give you a lap time improvement.

Actually, compared to road cars to whom peak power (or power number around peak power RPM) isn't that important ; in F1 cars peak HP is a very reasonable measure of performance, vide the simple fact that the % duration of full throttle and % duration of near-peak RPM (in all gears) over a laptime duration, is a much much higher proportion.

If you throw in something like a hybrid battery system which needs recharging, thus necessitating an 'actual torque demand' that is heavily translated/transformed version of 'driver torque demand' , the relevance of peak power number becomes even more pertinent, because the engine's operating point is going to shift towards 'higher than typical RPM' by the driver choosing 'lower than typical' gear or by designing a 'shorter than typical' gearbox. Due to the need to produce more energy than what the tyres require, a hybrid ICE is going to run at higher RPMs than the equivalent vanilla ICE would, and inherently have shorter geared powertrain (or asks to be driven at lower gears) than the vanilla ICE would, because F1 engines have to be oversquare and lighter (packaging reasons) and hence derive their 'bang for buck' from petrol via "RPM" rather than via "brute torque".

[deadhead]

petrol

Blasphemy