2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Luscion wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 16:18
https://autoracer.it/ferrari-non-solo-a ... i-scarico/
The two cars on track during the first free practice session featured different aerodynamic solutions. At the Spielberg circuit, the focus was placed on data collection ahead of the low-downforce rounds at Silverstone and Spa. More specifically, the team led by Loïc Serra ran two SF-26s with different bargeboard configurations on the sidepods: on Hamilton's SF-26, the "forest" of vertically developed vanes was removed, replaced by a single, wider element with less outward curvature. A more "simple" design, closer to the solution used on the car prior to Miami, conceived for a more low-downforce aerodynamic setup. The Briton subsequently reverted to the profiles used in Barcelona. As for the other side of the garage, Beganovic was guided over the radio by Johannes Hatz, head of Vehicle Performance for Leclerc, who drove his car in a configuration identical to Barcelona's with regard to the floor boards.

During FP1, Dino Beganovic completed a few laps fitted with the classic fins in order to gather aerodynamic data on the rear of the SF-26. The young Ferrari Academy driver tested the SF-26 without the winglet positioned in front of the exhaust, as part of correlation work with tests conducted at Maranello, again with an eye toward the fast circuits coming up on the calendar. Maranello will most likely decide not to fit the FTM at Spa and Monza, while for the recent Silverstone round, the Scuderia will carefully analyse the data gathered during today's tests. The question remains primarily linked to aerodynamic drag considerations — which the system generates around the rear axle — in addition to the negligible effect related to the engine.
Also the new engine was apparently already fitted but they were running a significantly more conservative engine mapping compared to Mercedes
Haha, you beat me to it with this info! =D>
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sucof wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 15:13
mzso wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 11:38
sucof wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 09:28


I wrote in my original message: "They are NOT this stupid"......
I think the point went past you. Why would it be stupid, if true? They may have used up most of the budget intended for this year's car. Most of what remains is allocated to 2027's. It was only in the last race they were somewhat competitive, with Russel racing with a botched front wing setting and Antonelli retiring.
It remains to be seen what will the pecking order be after Mercedes and McLaren brings significant updates.
It would be "stupid" because upgrade packages are not limited mainly by equipment or money, rather than Time.
Meaning, it is the time they need the most to develop the aero, so if you use your money quickly, you will have your engineers sitting still and looking out the window for the rest of the year instead of improving the car.
Hence a more balanced rythm of the updates makes your car faster overall.
Engineers also need to see the results, changes their latest ideas has caused to learn for the next update.
They also need the time to see the development of other cars, to stay up to date with their ideas.
You throw all those away if you spend your money in the beginning of the season.
But it is easy anyways, teams work like this if you look around. Some even decided to wait longer.
This is just your idealization. If they decide it's not worth spending more time and money on this car they can work on the next car. Engineers certainly won't sitting around idle in any case...

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mzso wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 18:01
sucof wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 15:13
mzso wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 11:38

I think the point went past you. Why would it be stupid, if true? They may have used up most of the budget intended for this year's car. Most of what remains is allocated to 2027's. It was only in the last race they were somewhat competitive, with Russel racing with a botched front wing setting and Antonelli retiring.
It remains to be seen what will the pecking order be after Mercedes and McLaren brings significant updates.
It would be "stupid" because upgrade packages are not limited mainly by equipment or money, rather than Time.
Meaning, it is the time they need the most to develop the aero, so if you use your money quickly, you will have your engineers sitting still and looking out the window for the rest of the year instead of improving the car.
Hence a more balanced rythm of the updates makes your car faster overall.
Engineers also need to see the results, changes their latest ideas has caused to learn for the next update.
They also need the time to see the development of other cars, to stay up to date with their ideas.
You throw all those away if you spend your money in the beginning of the season.
But it is easy anyways, teams work like this if you look around. Some even decided to wait longer.
This is just your idealization. If they decide it's not worth spending more time and money on this car they can work on the next car. Engineers certainly won't sitting around idle in any case...
omg... it was just an exaggeration to illustrate my point...
If you would think a bit, would never have thought otherwise, as I was talking about how the time of the engineers are the most important...
Nevermind...............

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Q: Hi Fred, just take us through how that first day of action has gone from from your side.

Fred Vasseur: Yeah it was a tough Friday that we struggled a little bit with the conditions, a bit extreme, the attitude, the temperature, it's the same for everybody but it's not fitting very well to us but it is like it is that we have the night to correct, to be ready for tomorrow, to put everything together and let's try to do a better job on Saturday.

Q: And I know obviously we were talking ahead of this weekend about the PU update that's come in for you guys, is there a sense of how much it's given you, where it's at?

Vasseur: We knew about ADUO two weeks ago or one week ago that you can't expect to have a huge step forward, we put a new engine for sure but it's not a decent step.

Q: And in terms of the rest of the weekend, obviously it was a very special one last time out, but what are the hopes, what are the targets, what can you really hope to achieve?

Vasseur: To do our best, as usual, we'll see the outcome on Sunday evening but so far we are far away of our potential, it means that we have to work on ourselves, to be focused on ourselves, not to think about the others and to try to put everything together.

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The pace in practice didn’t look especially strong (confirmed by Fred) but if last week is anything to go by, they may have shifted their approach to showing their hand less early in the weekend. Last week the FP2 long runs were the first sign of improvement so let’s see what these say.

It’s not surprising if the new PU is being bedded in and run very conservatively (for multiple reasons). But the handling didn’t look especially strong either, so seems like there’s work to do overnight. I still feel optimistic that the pace should be there if they can put it all together.

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Thinking ahead, I think Lewis might now to favourite to win in Silverstone... He's always gone well there, seems to benefit from the same boost as "Our Nige" used to get.

If he does win in Britain, then I think a championship challenge is definitely on!!
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f1316 wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 20:55
The pace in practice didn’t look especially strong (confirmed by Fred) but if last week is anything to go by, they may have shifted their approach to showing their hand less early in the weekend. Last week the FP2 long runs were the first sign of improvement so let’s see what these say.

It’s not surprising if the new PU is being bedded in and run very conservatively (for multiple reasons). But the handling didn’t look especially strong either, so seems like there’s work to do overnight. I still feel optimistic that the pace should be there if they can put it all together.
In Barcelona in FP3 Charles was 0.273 off kimi and Hamilton was 0.7 off kimi. So they seem to hold back and show true form in quali.

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sucof wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 19:26
mzso wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 18:01
sucof wrote: ↑
26 Jun 2026, 15:13


It would be "stupid" because upgrade packages are not limited mainly by equipment or money, rather than Time.
Meaning, it is the time they need the most to develop the aero, so if you use your money quickly, you will have your engineers sitting still and looking out the window for the rest of the year instead of improving the car.
Hence a more balanced rythm of the updates makes your car faster overall.
Engineers also need to see the results, changes their latest ideas has caused to learn for the next update.
They also need the time to see the development of other cars, to stay up to date with their ideas.
You throw all those away if you spend your money in the beginning of the season.
But it is easy anyways, teams work like this if you look around. Some even decided to wait longer.
This is just your idealization. If they decide it's not worth spending more time and money on this car they can work on the next car. Engineers certainly won't sitting around idle in any case...
omg... it was just an exaggeration to illustrate my point...
If you would think a bit, would never have thought otherwise, as I was talking about how the time of the engineers are the most important...
Nevermind...............
You were talking nonsense. And you pretend to have been witty.

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Such a shame they messed up the fuel on Hamiltons first run.

But great result for the team!

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That has to be a penalty…edit, or not. TF

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so, Brembo saga is over
and everything is back to normal
Charles is a monster
you can disperse.

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j_ste wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2026, 17:07
That has to be a penalty…edit, or not. TF
What happened with Russel is nonsense. Instead of a penalty he got a pole. Safety on track at its best.

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Sky UK saying his lap time is deleted

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Ferrari should be all over this and protest this stupid decision.

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woocasz wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2026, 17:09
so, Brembo saga is over
and everything is back to normal
Charles is a monster
you can disperse.
Yeah, monster charles out-qualified his teammate by a massive margin of 0.059 seconds that too when his teammate was able to do only one lap on a circuit which is not great for him. Let see how tomorrow charles smashes his washed out teammate. Greatest qualifier of this generation =D> .
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.