2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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tinuva wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 07:03
Different gear ratios could explain the comment "You will never guess what we had to change" (or something like that I read somewhere)
Exactly what I was thinking. The difference in performance between Merc and McL is gear ratios. McL and Redbull chose long ratios. Specially first gear is really long for Redbull.
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Sergej wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 11:55
Wasn't reported during testing that Red Bull had chosen short gear ratios to enhance recharging in slow speed corners ? maybe they found this was not the right way to go and changed gear ratios.
It was reported that they went with tall ratios.
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Badger wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 12:06
Except there is nothing jaw dropping about changing gear ratios, no one would be shocked.
Has a huge impact on regen, deployment and balance. Take a corner in 5th gear and same corner in 3rd. Also engine braking gets into the mix.
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4th in ATR, slightly more testing than the rivals. How much they get in the next period will most likely depend on Hadjars performances.

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Will the new wind tunnel be available for 2027 ? Even if it was not sure that they will have the time to setup and configurate it in time for the 2027 car since IIRC they have to designate one wind tunnel per year.

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Shlongi wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 20:42
Will the new wind tunnel be available for 2027 ? Even if it was not sure that they will have the time to setup and configurate it in time for the 2027 car since IIRC they have to designate one wind tunnel per year.
I'm not sure if only one tunnel can be nominated a year... Aston Martin switched to their own tunnel mid season.

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Badger wrote:
30 Jun 2026, 12:29
There is some speculation in the paddock that the RBPT has the largest turbo diameter, or the most turbo airflow anyways. This may explain a few things that we are seeing.
  • ADUO results which indicate high peak power (but clearly not more overall PU performance than Merc).
  • Start struggles.
  • Driveability issues in low speed (turbo lag).
  • PU being very competitive at altitude in Austria (arguably a 100% match for Merc who had brand new PUs).
  • Slightly larger air-scoop, slightly larger exhaust diameter.
Nothing confirmed but I can see why people believe this to be true, it fits the rather confusing picture. Also if true it's stupid that turbo size is not accounted for in the ADUO calculation.
I think the "mind blowing" change might well have had to do with the exhaust manifold. Maybe they've done something really clever reducing hot gas volume to the turbo and reducing packaging volume of the manifold inside the sidepod as well.

Regarding ADUO there is so much wrong with it, it's shouldn't even exist, especially not with a PU OEM budget cap :lol:

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If that's the case Verstappen should win in Brazil and Mexico. That big turbo will do wonders there.

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Here's a gear ratio chart from the beginning of the season, showing a similarly tall first gear to Merc and shorter on the rest. Not entirely sure how he arrived at these figures, but hopefully this Federico Albano fellow is keeping an eye out as I'd imagine McLaren and Audi would be considering changes as well. Audi are also known to have maximum turbo diameter.

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Brahmal wrote:
01 Jul 2026, 22:20
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HBImPP2awAA ... =4096x4096

Here's a gear ratio chart from the beginning of the season, showing a similarly tall first gear to Merc and shorter on the rest. Not entirely sure how he arrived at these figures, but hopefully this Federico Albano fellow is keeping an eye out as I'd imagine McLaren and Audi would be considering changes as well. Audi are also known to have maximum turbo diameter.
Audi are probably planning to break the sound barrier.

What about the other teams Mercedes supplies their PU to - Alpine, Williams ? Why are theirs slightly different from the Merc ? Unless they choose their own ratios / design their own gearbox, theirs should be coincident with the factory team's. Same Q with Haas & Ferrari and Redbull & RacingBulls.
Or is the chart not free from 'data noise' from the huge amounts of data that was snooped/shared (since chart is based on reverse calculations/estimates) from the early season tests ?

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I assume data noise. Guessing he got these figures by watching onboards and simply correlating engine RPMs to velocity, which wouldn't be super precise but good enough for this sort of thing.

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venkyhere wrote:
01 Jul 2026, 23:04
Brahmal wrote:
01 Jul 2026, 22:20
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HBImPP2awAA ... =4096x4096

Here's a gear ratio chart from the beginning of the season, showing a similarly tall first gear to Merc and shorter on the rest. Not entirely sure how he arrived at these figures, but hopefully this Federico Albano fellow is keeping an eye out as I'd imagine McLaren and Audi would be considering changes as well. Audi are also known to have maximum turbo diameter.
Audi are probably planning to break the sound barrier.

What about the other teams Mercedes supplies their PU to - Alpine, Williams ? Why are theirs slightly different from the Merc ? Unless they choose their own ratios / design their own gearbox, theirs should be coincident with the factory team's. Same Q with Haas & Ferrari and Redbull & RacingBulls.
Or is the chart not free from 'data noise' from the huge amounts of data that was snooped/shared (since chart is based on reverse calculations/estimates) from the early season tests ?
Made me spill my coffee :mrgreen: =D>

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This weekend drivers parade in Silverstone with LEGO karts.



Miami GP 2025 with LEGO cars.


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Max was yesterday in the UK for Wings for Life. Webber, Mateschitz, Coulthard and more were there.

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Max drove a hotlap today with Sammy Virji, a DJ/music producer from Oxfordshire.
(Nice to know: he was born September 30, 1996. Exactly 1 year older than Max :) )