2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[SSJ4]

so lets say the excess weight we're carrying is at the maximum so around 15kg. under the assumption the package puts us at minimum weight.
How much is there to roughly gain from that alone?

[krich]

so lets say the excess weight we're carrying is at the maximum so around 15kg. under the assumption the package puts us at minimum weight.
How much is there to roughly gain from that alone?

6/7 tenths

[FNTC]

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/aston-ma ... ian-horner

Christian Horner has once again been approached by Aston Martin to reinvigorate the Formula 1 team. That rumour is reported by The Daily Mail. The former Red Bull Racing team principal is still be considering various options for a return to the pinnacle of motorsport.
According to the British outlet, Aston Martin owner Lance Stroll has been keen on Horner and was close to making a move for him until negotiations are said to have fallen through at the last moment.
Now as Aston Martin continues to struggle on track, the British team is said to have made another attempt to lure Horner.

[diffuser]

"The rear suspension is slightly revised"
I am eager to see if the rear arm of the top wishbone is still connected to the rear crash structure (rear wing pylons) or like other conventional designs, gone back to connecting to the gearbox casing. I always had a hunch (posted in this thread long ago) that one of the sources for the vibration problem was the 'noise' from the wheels.

Remember, the vibrations are gone and the rear suspension is unchanged since the beginning of the year.

[CHT]

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/aston-ma ... ian-horner

Christian Horner has once again been approached by Aston Martin to reinvigorate the Formula 1 team. That rumour is reported by The Daily Mail. The former Red Bull Racing team principal is still be considering various options for a return to the pinnacle of motorsport.
According to the British outlet, Aston Martin owner Lance Stroll has been keen on Horner and was close to making a move for him until negotiations are said to have fallen through at the last moment.
Now as Aston Martin continues to struggle on track, the British team is said to have made another attempt to lure Horner.

With Newey facing health issue, and Aston Martin making loses, its all possible that Horner may be hoping to acquire a stack in the team. Last moment fall out could be due to disagreement in company valuation.

[zoroastar]

"The rear suspension is slightly revised"
I am eager to see if the rear arm of the top wishbone is still connected to the rear crash structure (rear wing pylons) or like other conventional designs, gone back to connecting to the gearbox casing. I always had a hunch (posted in this thread long ago) that one of the sources for the vibration problem was the 'noise' from the wheels.

Remember, the vibrations are gone and the rear suspension is unchanged since the beginning of the year.

havent you noticed the rear wishbone wrapped in foam and duct tape since miami?

honestly, the crash structure has to be a solid mounting area. if the other end is mounted to the hub (or whatever its called) i dont see that there would be any difference in vibrations. id think the gearbox casing would be subject to more vibration than a solid part of the chassis thats made to withstand impacts.
be glad when hungary gets here though.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

"The rear suspension is slightly revised"
I am eager to see if the rear arm of the top wishbone is still connected to the rear crash structure (rear wing pylons) or like other conventional designs, gone back to connecting to the gearbox casing. I always had a hunch (posted in this thread long ago) that one of the sources for the vibration problem was the 'noise' from the wheels.

Remember, the vibrations are gone and the rear suspension is unchanged since the beginning of the year.

havent you noticed the rear wishbone wrapped in foam and duct tape since miami?

honestly, the crash structure has to be a solid mounting area. if the other end is mounted to the hub (or whatever its called) i dont see that there would be any difference in vibrations. id think the gearbox casing would be subject to more vibration than a solid part of the chassis thats made to withstand impacts.
be glad when hungary gets here though.

Vibration is not just a simple thing. Just an example,you get vibration at higher rev-rpm range or getting worse when the race goes. Is can be simply eliminate, by use different material. Maybe they used the same alloy or carbon lay out at every mounted parts and is amplifier each other because they have the same resonance frequency. "Bushings" will works but just for few laps ,then the harmonic effect start again. (Exactly this what Alonso told to riporter, that sometimes everything feels normal, then after pitstop everything shaking.

[Rodak]

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/aston-ma ... ian-horner

Christian Horner has once again been approached by Aston Martin to reinvigorate the Formula 1 team. That rumour is reported by The Daily Mail. The former Red Bull Racing team principal is still be considering various options for a return to the pinnacle of motorsport.
According to the British outlet, Aston Martin owner Lance Stroll has been keen on Horner and was close to making a move for him until negotiations are said to have fallen through at the last moment.
Now as Aston Martin continues to struggle on track, the British team is said to have made another attempt to lure Horner.

With Newey facing health issue, and Aston Martin making loses, its all possible that Horner may be hoping to acquire a stack in the team. Last moment fall out could be due to disagreement in company valuation.

Isn't the F1 race team totally independent of the car company? I believe the only connection is a sponsorship deal from Aston.

[FW17]

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/aston-ma ... ian-horner

With Newey facing health issue, and Aston Martin making loses, its all possible that Horner may be hoping to acquire a stack in the team. Last moment fall out could be due to disagreement in company valuation.

Isn't the F1 race team totally independent of the car company? I believe the only connection is a sponsorship deal from Aston.

Aston Martin car company is worth 500 million
Aston Martin F1 team is 3 billion

[NAPI10]

Any update on Engine Upgrades? Honda rumored to bring by Belgium GP

[diffuser]

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/aston-ma ... ian-horner

Christian Horner has once again been approached by Aston Martin to reinvigorate the Formula 1 team. That rumour is reported by The Daily Mail. The former Red Bull Racing team principal is still be considering various options for a return to the pinnacle of motorsport.
According to the British outlet, Aston Martin owner Lance Stroll has been keen on Horner and was close to making a move for him until negotiations are said to have fallen through at the last moment.
Now as Aston Martin continues to struggle on track, the British team is said to have made another attempt to lure Horner.

With Newey facing health issue, and Aston Martin making loses, its all possible that Horner may be hoping to acquire a stack in the team. Last moment fall out could be due to disagreement in company valuation.

Loses? Horner isn't a engineer. He's a manager.

[diffuser]

"The rear suspension is slightly revised"
I am eager to see if the rear arm of the top wishbone is still connected to the rear crash structure (rear wing pylons) or like other conventional designs, gone back to connecting to the gearbox casing. I always had a hunch (posted in this thread long ago) that one of the sources for the vibration problem was the 'noise' from the wheels.

Remember, the vibrations are gone and the rear suspension is unchanged since the beginning of the year.

havent you noticed the rear wishbone wrapped in foam and duct tape since miami?

honestly, the crash structure has to be a solid mounting area. if the other end is mounted to the hub (or whatever its called) i dont see that there would be any difference in vibrations. id think the gearbox casing would be subject to more vibration than a solid part of the chassis thats made to withstand impacts.
be glad when hungary gets here though.

Nope, I haven't.

The gearbox casing is a structural part of the chassis, but it isn't the gearbox itself. The gearbox is housed inside the casing. Over the years, teams have packaged other components inside the gearbox casing alongside the gearbox. I'm not sure exactly how the gearbox internals are supported within the casing.

For years, teams have mounted the rear suspension directly to the gearbox casing because it's a structural member. In any case, the tub is on the opposite side of the ICE. It's located almost directly behind the driver's head, only a couple of centimeters farther rearward.

[Brahmal]

In any case, the wheel hub is on the opposite side of the ICE. It's located almost directly behind the driver's head, only a couple of centimeters farther rearward.

I think he's referring to the part that the brakes and wheels are attached to. The ones in front are called steering knuckles, not sure what the rear ones are called as I've heard it referred to as the knuckle, spindle, or hub carrier.

[diffuser]

In any case, the tub is on the opposite side of the ICE. It's located almost directly behind the driver's head, only a couple of centimeters farther rearward.

I think he's referring to the part that the brakes and wheels are attached to. The ones in front are called steering knuckles, not sure what the rear ones are called as I've heard it referred to as the knuckle, spindle, or hub carrier.

Error correction changed tub to wheel hub.

[Farnborough]

Remember, the vibrations are gone and the rear suspension is unchanged since the beginning of the year.

havent you noticed the rear wishbone wrapped in foam and duct tape since miami?

honestly, the crash structure has to be a solid mounting area. if the other end is mounted to the hub (or whatever its called) i dont see that there would be any difference in vibrations. id think the gearbox casing would be subject to more vibration than a solid part of the chassis thats made to withstand impacts.
be glad when hungary gets here though.

Nope, I haven't.

The gearbox casing is a structural part of the chassis, but it isn't the gearbox itself. The gearbox is housed inside the casing. Over the years, teams have packaged other components inside the gearbox casing alongside the gearbox. I'm not sure exactly how the gearbox internals are supported within the casing.

For years, teams have mounted the rear suspension directly to the gearbox casing because it's a structural member. In any case, the tub is on the opposite side of the ICE. It's located almost directly behind the driver's head, only a couple of centimeters farther rearward.

What was historically called the gearbox in this type of car, literally a casing in conventional sense to make the "gearbox" in truest sense, with suspension pickup points plus other structural mounts for wing etc, has evolved into a separate structure now and with the gearset/transmission inserted in a wholly contaned "cassete" mounted inside the structure we can see at rear of car.

The rear structure now effectively a smaller version of main chassis tub and, rigidly mounted to rear of PU to facilitate any load path of suspension aero etc at the rear.

Mounting of rear upper suspension wishbone/links to the wing pylon is simply an extension of the monocoque casing up into that elevated position (likely for suspension geometry/aero combined effect) and much the same as a lower mounting point on other design.

The whole car consists of front monocoque, attached to PU (with PU as fully stressed structural component) then rear monocoque attached to the PU to facilitate ALL rear load geometry and chassis duty.