2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Farnborough
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Brahmal wrote: ↑
02 Jul 2026, 04:36
Farnborough wrote: ↑
01 Jul 2026, 23:18
Looks like we're watching bland algorithm simply blunt a driver that can operate in that rarefied area, possibly making dome others look better too.
Yes, Charles and Lewis are very interesting to compare as drivers responding to the nature of the regulations over the years.

Lewis has been through at least 3 different PU regimes in his career, which is probably why this new one doesn't bother him so much. However, he had only been through 1 handling regime (flat floor) until the ground effect cars came in and threw him for a loop. Most of Lewis' special skills are handling/braking based, and the GE cars broke many of those skills.

Charles OTOH has been through 2 different handling regimes and encountered the GE cars when he was still relatively young and malleable. However he's only ever used the 1 turbo-hybrid PU regime and has built many of his special skills around power delivery and throttle control, which has now been broken by these new PUs. Perhaps the eventual change to 60:40 power split will allow him to get back to his best, but it's not guaranteed.

These two drivers are mirror images of one another in many ways, which makes this all quite fascinating to watch.
My intention wasn't to give comparison with teammate, or say other contemporary driver. Many contributors come with too much of a driver allegiance to sensibly examine in this context.

I simply feel that to look at this in isolation with CL, then an important area of his performance has been scuppered by the need and use of algorithmic control in pursuit of energy profile that these rules bring with them.

To make it clear, my feeling is that Verstappen is one of the only one's pointing this out, and he understands it. It's the automated control of deployment that interfere with driver skill right out at that rarefied atmosphere of the performance envelope, and one that bland rules directed at an eco motive can never really appreciate.

The sport is missing this and tries to cover up whats missing. There's far too many competing interests to allow this ultimate skill to flourish.

I'm not interested in driver yang-yang, but to give more rounded direction I'd look at CL skill in that arena similar to Mansell & Hakkinen for that searing pace and chassis attitude right out at performance periphery.

Waz
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Engine performance this weekend? Lower atmosphere, normally cooler UK weather. Are we expecting a return to being close on power again?

Austria was a bit brutal.

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Farnborough wrote: ↑
02 Jul 2026, 11:03
My intention wasn't to give comparison with teammate, or say other contemporary driver. Many contributors come with too much of a driver allegiance to sensibly examine in this context.
And that's a shame, because trying to understand how different regulations affect different drivers in different ways can help put individual driver performance into better context. Comparing Charles' current struggles to Lewis' in the GE era can help counter those who seem to think that Charles has suddenly forgotten how to drive, or is mentally weak. At some point comparison is inevitable particularly between teammates, and it is possible to do so in an objective and thoughtful way.

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Waz wrote: ↑
02 Jul 2026, 15:00
Engine performance this weekend? Lower atmosphere, normally cooler UK weather. Are we expecting a return to being close on power again?

Austria was a bit brutal.
I think everyone is very scared of sector two

Jdn1327
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j_ste wrote: ↑
02 Jul 2026, 17:06
Waz wrote: ↑
02 Jul 2026, 15:00
Engine performance this weekend? Lower atmosphere, normally cooler UK weather. Are we expecting a return to being close on power again?

Austria was a bit brutal.
I think everyone is very scared of sector two
I dont think we can expect the speeds we reached in previous years. Drivers will have to harvest quiet a bit in s2 to charge the battery. Will be very lacklustre as a spectacle...thank you FIA...

f1Follower
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Until Ferrari has proper engine there is no chance of championship for Ferrari

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f1Follower wrote: ↑
03 Jul 2026, 13:41
Until Ferrari has proper engine there is no chance of championship for Ferrari
Ferrari 1 & 3 on a power circuit in FP..... Championship is Mercedes' to lose, but Ferrari are definitely hot on their heels.
"From success, you learn absolutely nothing. From failure and setbacks, conclusions can be drawn." - Niki Lauda

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long run looked good, but my god lewis is locked in, what a driver, charles need to stay calm and make step by step improvemnt on this car.. let see is Sq 3 we will know how far we are compared to sandbagged merc and redbull

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Fakepivot wrote: ↑
03 Jul 2026, 14:34
long run looked good, but my god lewis is locked in, what a driver, charles need to stay calm and make step by step improvemnt on this car.. let see is Sq 3 we will know how far we are compared to sandbagged merc and redbull
Antonelli is definitely the one to look out for in terms of lap times.

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Well I'd love to have some hope...but we all know Mercedes had their engines turned down and Redbull will magically pull something out of the hat. And what was 1 and 3 will become 5 and 6...

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Fakepivot wrote: ↑
03 Jul 2026, 14:34
long run looked good, but my god lewis is locked in, what a driver, charles need to stay calm and make step by step improvemnt on this car.. let see is Sq 3 we will know how far we are compared to sandbagged merc and redbull
Since they made front much more efficient aero wise, this car is more HAM suited, LEC as you said must work, learn, how to use it.

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Jdn1327 wrote: ↑
03 Jul 2026, 14:39
Well I'd love to have some hope...but we all know Mercedes had their engines turned down and Redbull will magically pull something out of the hat. And what was 1 and 3 will become 5 and 6...
I wouldn’t count out McLaren either. Hamilton might be in the mix but Leclerc I’m unsure

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I think Ferrari need to act decisively and have Leclerc as a number 2, helping to support the much needed WDC for the team.

If they leave it until later in the season it will be too late. It needs to be now while Mercedes are infighting.

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djones wrote: ↑
03 Jul 2026, 14:56
I think Ferrari need to act decisively and have Leclerc as a number 2, helping to support the much needed WDC for the team.

If they leave it until later in the season it will be too late. It needs to be now while Mercedes are infighting.
Agreed. He knows he doesn't gel with the current car, so hopefully he'll play the team game.

He's got many more years to try to get his own WDC.
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Anyone found any decent images of Lewis's helmet this weekend?
"From success, you learn absolutely nothing. From failure and setbacks, conclusions can be drawn." - Niki Lauda