2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:53
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:19
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:03

I'm not the one with my head in the sand....

And what does any of that have to do with the FACT that we've had close, competitive racing this season??

Strawman arguments aren't welcome anywhere. The Race runs a podcast called "Bring back the V10's", they're not a reliable source as they are just as biased as you. Plus they're basically a tabloid clickbait site these days.

I never said the PU couldn't be improved, but the idea that this season is awful is just plain wrong. We've had some epic races and it is shaping up to be a classic with Kimi, George, Lewis and Max all potentially in the title fight.

I guess they'll be giving away tickets next year as they won't be able to sell them if it's as bad as you seem. To think.... :roll:
Maybe you should read the comment you wrote yourself which was nothing but straw man arguments. You cast doubt on Max's criticism of the cars at this track and then turned it into a "I think the racing is great" argument. What does that have to do with what Max said? I highlighted to you that it's a major talking point amongst the drivers that Silverstone will be a particularly bad track for these cars. And it's a major talking point amongst the stakeholders that this formula isn't working as intended, hence the rules being changed already and discussions about the next engine formula from the FIA president. You thinking the racing is good is your opinion, we all have one, but what I am talking about comes from the people that matter inside the sport.
Simplest solution is to return to last year's PUs. They worked and had none of the issues associated with the current PUs or those associated with returning to V8/V10. If it wasn't for Audi, we'd still have them anyway.
Changing the power split is the solution, which is what they are doing now. It says enough that such a radical decision had to be made a few months into a new regulation, clearly there were a lot of unhappy people behind the scenes. They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:

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Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Racing fans are aware that resource management has been an important factor and skill in motor racing since the earliest of days - be that tyres, fuel (energy), component life, etc.. Some, however, hark back to some fondly remembered time that never really existed. Or, rather, there was a short period when cars could refuel and tyres changed regularly but the racing was non-existent and was so processional that you walk away for 20 minutes and return to find nothing had happened. Dull? It was coma-inducingly tedious at some tracks.

What is important is having the cars and drivers vying for places on track. If that happens at 280mk/h then so be it. Rather 70 laps of that than 70 laps of flat out procession.
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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 16:00
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Racing fans are aware that resource management has been an important factor and skill in motor racing since the earliest of days - be that tyres, fuel (energy), component life, etc.. Some, however, hark back to some fondly remembered time that never really existed. Or, rather, there was a short period when cars could refuel and tyres changed regularly but the racing was non-existent and was so processional that you walk away for 20 minutes and return to find nothing had happened. Dull? It was coma-inducingly tedious at some tracks.

What is important is having the cars and drivers vying for places on track. If that happens at 280mk/h then so be it. Rather 70 laps of that than 70 laps of flat out procession.
The racing has been really fun to watch as a fan. I think the energy management has been handled poorly though.
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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:53
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:19

Maybe you should read the comment you wrote yourself which was nothing but straw man arguments. You cast doubt on Max's criticism of the cars at this track and then turned it into a "I think the racing is great" argument. What does that have to do with what Max said? I highlighted to you that it's a major talking point amongst the drivers that Silverstone will be a particularly bad track for these cars. And it's a major talking point amongst the stakeholders that this formula isn't working as intended, hence the rules being changed already and discussions about the next engine formula from the FIA president. You thinking the racing is good is your opinion, we all have one, but what I am talking about comes from the people that matter inside the sport.
Simplest solution is to return to last year's PUs. They worked and had none of the issues associated with the current PUs or those associated with returning to V8/V10. If it wasn't for Audi, we'd still have them anyway.
Changing the power split is the solution, which is what they are doing now. It says enough that such a radical decision had to be made a few months into a new regulation, clearly there were a lot of unhappy people behind the scenes. They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Where was the polling conducted? Because everyone I know in real life, including amongst colleagues at Silverstone, don't care about the energy management. They like that drivers can follow each other and that we're getting more overtakes.

The fans who care about the energy management are the minority, the likes of which frequent forums likes this, or watch The Race etc.
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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 16:00
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Racing fans are aware that resource management has been an important factor and skill in motor racing since the earliest of days - be that tyres, fuel (energy), component life, etc.. Some, however, hark back to some fondly remembered time that never really existed. Or, rather, there was a short period when cars could refuel and tyres changed regularly but the racing was non-existent and was so processional that you walk away for 20 minutes and return to find nothing had happened. Dull? It was coma-inducingly tedious at some tracks.

What is important is having the cars and drivers vying for places on track. If that happens at 280mk/h then so be it. Rather 70 laps of that than 70 laps of flat out procession.
Shhhh....didn't you get the memo.....F1 2026 is apparently rubbish.....that's why Silverstone has sold out all 4 days and has seen record crowds yesterday and today.....
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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 16:00
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Racing fans are aware that resource management has been an important factor and skill in motor racing since the earliest of days - be that tyres, fuel (energy), component life, etc.. Some, however, hark back to some fondly remembered time that never really existed. Or, rather, there was a short period when cars could refuel and tyres changed regularly but the racing was non-existent and was so processional that you walk away for 20 minutes and return to find nothing had happened. Dull? It was coma-inducingly tedious at some tracks.

What is important is having the cars and drivers vying for places on track. If that happens at 280mk/h then so be it. Rather 70 laps of that than 70 laps of flat out procession.
Everything in moderation. Management shouldn't define the formula, especially not energy management seeing as racing is an inherently excessive and energy inefficient activity, that is what makes it fun to watch. The more energy management you introduce the less it becomes racing and the more it becomes like commuting.

If what was important was quantity of overtakes F1 would never have become the pinnacle of motorsport. F1 has had an overtaking "problem" for at least 5 decades. F1 had an overtaking problem in the last regulation when the sport grew like crazy. But IMO this debate is a false one because we can have cars that are not energy strangled that can also overtake. If we had a 65/35 split for example you'd still have big deployment deltas helping create overtakes but not nearly as much energy management. Drivers wouldn't need to hold back in corners to save energy for the straights.

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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 16:18
Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:31
Just_a_fan wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 13:53

Simplest solution is to return to last year's PUs. They worked and had none of the issues associated with the current PUs or those associated with returning to V8/V10. If it wasn't for Audi, we'd still have them anyway.
Changing the power split is the solution, which is what they are doing now. It says enough that such a radical decision had to be made a few months into a new regulation, clearly there were a lot of unhappy people behind the scenes. They probably got the fan polling back from the first few races and found out most racing fans don't love energy management :lol:
Where was the polling conducted? Because everyone I know in real life, including amongst colleagues at Silverstone, don't care about the energy management. They like that drivers can follow each other and that we're getting more overtakes.

The fans who care about the energy management are the minority, the likes of which frequent forums likes this, or watch The Race etc.
It's great that you and your friends are content, but F1 was clearly not, that's why they changed it in a matter of months. If everything was so amazing you will have to explain to us why they chose to do that? Billion dollar companies don't make emergency changes based on whims.

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Re: 2026 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 03 - 05

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Badger wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 17:10
If everything was so amazing you will have to explain to us why they chose to do that? Billion dollar companies don't make emergency changes based on whims.
They make changes because all they care about is the $$$. When you have some drivers comparing to the press about every chance they get, the new DTS type fans who generally know next to nothing about cars or racing will parrot the same complaints.
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