2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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SB15
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Redbull is at the end of the road...

Rikhart
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Sergej wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 22:24
very bad situation
The guy looks just done with this team, and rightly so. He should be at mercedes, finishing 30+ seconds ahead of everyone.

Valeo
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Nah, he still cares. A lot.
One can see that but it's a tricky one.
I think he really wants to stay but likely not sure what to do.

Dee
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Valeo wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 23:08
Nah, he still cares. A lot.
One can see that but it's a tricky one.
I think he really wants to stay but likely not sure what to do.
Two main issues,

Team are not listening to him.

Wache is not sharing important data with GP, which puts the team and Max at a disadvantage.

What can Max do in this situation...

Seanspeed
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I'm still impressed Red Bull are as competitive as they are with a whole new regulation set after losing all the technical people they have. Really expected them to be closer to midfield without Newey with a clean sheet design. That said, it still looks like they're relying a lot on previous RB/Newey concepts. And having FIVE sidepod iterations from testing through to half season is something I've never seen before. So it's not all sunshine and rainbows, but still, Max is regularly challenging for podiums.

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It'll be really interesting to see if it's possible to fix this rear-wing concept, or if it was fundamentally flawed from the start. There were some people crowing about Red Bull getting one over on Ferrari when this came out, as they seemed to have created the simpler and cheaper solution for similar or better result. Perhaps Ferrari designed their wing that way for a reason? How much egg needs to be on Wache's face before he gets the sack?

Also, and I hesitate to bring this up, but Max may be culpable for some of this. If you watch his car right before the crash, you'll see that the wing closes very shortly before he starts turning into the corner. When Ferrari were testing their wing during preseason and the first few races, Lewis in particular was really acid-testing that wing-closure timing with turn-in, and spun the car out several times as a result. Since then, they have often been closing their wings a little early on certain corners, so much so that I find it noticeable on the broadcast. Has Red Bull been doing this as well? I am not saying with certainty that Max is at fault, but it is possible that he or Red Bull have missed a trick here.

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deadhead
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Is Hadjar just getting lucky with his rear wing?

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venkyhere wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 19:01
Novice Q :
- How is the SLM mode deactivated ?
Brake application or manual button press ?
Kindly help with this query

avantman
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venkyhere wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 07:43
venkyhere wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 19:01
Novice Q :
- How is the SLM mode deactivated ?
Brake application or manual button press ?
Kindly help with this query
Brakes or throttle release. Did you get banned from google?
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FittingMechanics
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deadhead wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 03:55
Is Hadjar just getting lucky with his rear wing?
It could be that he runs more downforce, which leads to slightly slower potential laptime but it's more stable in these borderline situations. It's not like Max crashes every lap.

SLM deactivation IIRC can be both brake or a button. It doesn't have to be just brakes. Not sure how it is on Red Bull, I think it would be crazy that they don't have a button to close it down on purpose.

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Valeo wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 23:08
Nah, he still cares. A lot.
One can see that but it's a tricky one.
I think he really wants to stay but likely not sure what to do.
Simple, like in any job, employees that make noise and ventilating their criticism are not ready to leave. They are, with their responses, trying very much to change things. When they become quiet, that is the point of no return. That is when they have decided to leave and stopped caring about the current situation.

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marcel171281 wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 09:57
Valeo wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 23:08
Nah, he still cares. A lot.
One can see that but it's a tricky one.
I think he really wants to stay but likely not sure what to do.
Simple, like in any job, employees that make noise and ventilating their criticism are not ready to leave. They are, with their responses, trying very much to change things. When they become quiet, that is the point of no return. That is when they have decided to leave and stopped caring about the current situation.
Pretty much yes

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Wouter
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Max wanted a new PU and a different setup after bad qualifying. The team said no.
During the race the same things happened again. And again (3th time) the team didn't listen to Max who is behind the wheel.


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FW17
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The third stint times were BAD

Ant - 31.7, 32.1, 31.9

Ham - 33.7, 33.4, 33.3, 33.0, 33.0, 32.8, 32.9

Max - 32.1, 32.9, 32.5, 32.5, 32.4, 32.8, 32.9

Rus - 32.4, 32.5, 32.7, 32.6, 32.7, 32.5, 32.9

Would have expected Max to be in the 31s for the stint with a fresh new mediums and 14 lap fuel

avada
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So they said the rear wing failed to fully close both in Austria and in England. Is there footage or at least photos of this?