Aston Martin AMR26

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sucof wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 14:53
wiktor977 wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 12:04
It looks like the exhaust is positioned much lower. Does it mean that they will introduce similar exhaust winglets like Ferrari?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN-naFyWQAA ... =4096x4096
This new more rigid solution with the horizontal connection might be telling about their past troubles.
Looks like they did great effort to have that strengthened part, so it might have caused the rear to misbehave.
To me it looked bad when they presented it, so I am not surprised.
This can also be the weight reducing solution, strengthening RW pylons for them to be able to take massive horizontal loads adds additional weight

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It is always dangerous to judge an aero concept on looks alone, but this still seems to be fundamentally the same concept as the first iteration, it is certainly not the radial overhaul I was thinking we might see given how far off the pace they are.

That must mean that either Aston Martin believe the concept works and just needs some tweaks to unlock it, or the concept is baked and can't be changed for this year, or the chassis is ok and the Honda motor is a real donkey...

:-k

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Martin Keene wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 15:50
It is always dangerous to judge an aero concept on looks alone, but this still seems to be fundamentally the same concept as the first iteration, it is certainly not the radial overhaul I was thinking we might see given how far off the pace they are.

That must mean that either Aston Martin believe the concept works and just needs some tweaks to unlock it, or the concept is baked and can't be changed for this year, or the chassis is ok and the Honda motor is a real donkey...

:-k
The suspension and the floor both could be very different, and can make the car work entirely differently aero wise.
I am not suggesting it is, just stating a fact.
Though I suspect they did big changes on these front as well, even perhaps the largest ones.

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https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car

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wiktor977 wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 15:27
sucof wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 14:53
wiktor977 wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 12:04
It looks like the exhaust is positioned much lower. Does it mean that they will introduce similar exhaust winglets like Ferrari?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN-naFyWQAA ... =4096x4096
This new more rigid solution with the horizontal connection might be telling about their past troubles.
Looks like they did great effort to have that strengthened part, so it might have caused the rear to misbehave.
To me it looked bad when they presented it, so I am not surprised.
This can also be the weight reducing solution, strengthening RW pylons for them to be able to take massive horizontal loads adds additional weight

The "horizontal connection" that you guys are referring to , has nothing to do with strengthening the RW pylons. It the rear leg upper wishbone "longbow style" (just like front leg upper wishbone at the front of the car) as mentioned by @AR3GP.

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
They have probably the most extremely sculpted and tight bodywork around the engine except for where those cooling fins are. There might also be differences between the teams with air/air or air/water cooling, etc.

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
Actually energy is heat, so the more efficient the engine is more powerful. Wasting heat is loosing efficiency.
So, the most powerful engine will need the least cooling, as it can convert the most heat to movement. Lesser engines waste power as heat.

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venkyhere wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:34
wiktor977 wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 15:27
sucof wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 14:53


This new more rigid solution with the horizontal connection might be telling about their past troubles.
Looks like they did great effort to have that strengthened part, so it might have caused the rear to misbehave.
To me it looked bad when they presented it, so I am not surprised.
This can also be the weight reducing solution, strengthening RW pylons for them to be able to take massive horizontal loads adds additional weight

The "horizontal connection" that you guys are referring to , has nothing to do with strengthening the RW pylons. It the rear leg upper wishbone "longbow style" (just like front leg upper wishbone at the front of the car) as mentioned by @AR3GP.
Not sure if I agree. As if you look, this part did not exist before.

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
It is exhausting more energy than any of the others.

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
Makes perfect sense really, all engines have the same fuel flow, meaning the least powerful engine is the least efficient one, meaning less energy is converted into motion, and more of it is wasted as heat

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
They use the same amount of fuel (fuel flow limit), but produce more heat and less mechanical power than the others. Makes sense.

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avada wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 17:15
Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
They use the same amount of fuel (fuel flow limit), but produce more heat and less mechanical power than the others. Makes sense.
Yeah, less combustion efficiency, so less hp and more heat. Agreed.

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Ozan wrote:
24 Jul 2026, 16:20
https://x.com/thomasmaheronf1/status/20 ... 0&ref_url=

i still can't understand how the least powerful engine requires the most cooling openings at the back of the car
If the ignition designs were good enough, less energy would be wasted, and if the design requires the engine to run hotter, they would do this by less cooling. Because once they achieve the fast combustion, the engine won't get that hot.