2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[zoroastar]

dont wanna sound tin foil hat but is there any other excuse to run that strategy except to help lance run closer to alonso? honest question. not that it matters points wise, but alonso wasnt too happy about it. they ran so long on the softs that lance deleted a 15 second deficit in 10 laps

[diffuser]

I know that.. they have been doing these kind of strategies for a while. Lance will start way back of Alonso, stop early and do probably the faster 2stopper. Meanwhile Alonso will stay out for far too long and eventually be asked to move. Happened countless times.

BTW, they changed the strategy team last year. so it isn't the same "They" as before. Since they changed the team and they still come up with bad strategies in your opinion. The problem must be you who doesn't understand.


The idea is Alonso is trying to get in the points, So his strategy is against the cars in front. He's positioning himself to get ahead of the cars in front. It's easier when you in the top teen position to get clean air by going long. At Hungry a 2 stop and a 3 stop(if you find clean air) are pretty close. It's just easier for Stroll to find clean air when the cars that were ahead of him are as lower that the AMR26B.

[zoroastar]

I would have been happy for the Astons to compete with the Haas today, but the Aston clearly had better tire deg than them. It was amazing to be close with the Alpines.

It is time for Honda to do their part and help Aston fight the Audis and Racing Bulls now.

yeah dude, the car seems to be good on the tires. hopefully thats another positive from these upgrades going forward

[SSJ4]

De la Rosa saying new engine which we knew already and with further weight reduction for zandvoort.

[F1RAM]

I know that.. they have been doing these kind of strategies for a while. Lance will start way back of Alonso, stop early and do probably the faster 2stopper. Meanwhile Alonso will stay out for far too long and eventually be asked to move. Happened countless times.

BTW, they changed the strategy team last year. so it isn't the same "They" as before. Since they changed the team and they still come up with bad strategies in your opinion. The problem must be you who doesn't understand.


The idea is Alonso is trying to get in the points, So his strategy is against the cars in front. He's positioning himself to get ahead of the cars in front. It's easier when you in the top teen position to get clean air by going long. At Hungry a 2 stop and a 3 stop(if you find clean air) are pretty close. It's just easier for Stroll to find clean air when the cars that were ahead of him are as lower that the AMR26B.

Lmao yeah... Alonso was trying to get into points!! Was there even a realistic chance when he was losing time getting lapped and others stopped for fresh tires!! Then came behind Sainz, bearman and had to divebomb to get past them, losing more time.

He was asking on radio many times after lap25! about the race overview. And why did Alonso himself complain about the strategy after the race?? Now he must be the problem according to you!!

Weekend was very good...but you have to call a spade, a spade. Strategy wws bad. When/if they fight for points, what will be the excuse then!! There will be no place to hide.

[F1RAM]

dont wanna sound tin foil hat but is there any other excuse to run that strategy except to help lance run closer to alonso? honest question. not that it matters points wise, but alonso wasnt too happy about it. they ran so long on the softs that lance deleted a 15 second deficit in 10 laps

Everyone can see this... this has been going on for a while regardless of the strategy team. I remember Vettel fans creating memes in 2023 about the fkd up strategies.

[Sedaxel]

Bad strategy but... Actually, there was nothing to gain, points were out of reach. So I think Alo doesn't care too much.

The important thing is that the improvement is solid. More than it's in qualy, I think. Clearly faster than Williams and Haas. Slower than alpine, though.

I think it's a fantastic upgrade, and even more if we think it's a lot to improve from here.

[Kamel]

Guys, I am at least glad that both cars were able to finish the entire distance.
Honda, find a 70 HP, i beg u.

[gearboxtrouble]

About as good a weekend as could have been hoped. The engine doesn't matter around here but they'll need Honda to find at least 30hp to stay in this position fighting the Haas and Williams after the break. If the future upgrades unlock more performance I could see Aston ending the season fighting for a point or two on merit at certain tracks.

[F1RAM]

About as good a weekend as could have been hoped. The engine doesn't matter around here but they'll need Honda to find at least 30hp to stay in this position fighting the Haas and Williams after the break. If the future upgrades unlock more performance I could see Aston ending the season fighting for a point or two on merit at certain tracks.

If the gap is like 90-100hp.. 40-50hp is achievable just coz of how bad they were. + some aero upgrades at Zandv and weight reduction as well.
Monza upgrade could be circuit specific low drag ones.. then Baku ones could be the final updates.
Others would be bringing updates as well like Alpine.. so need all the updates to fight for points.

[avada]

Why does it have to start with failures all the time??? Look at Audi and RBPT. New engine manufacturers, doing exceptionally well from the get go.

RBPT hired ex Honda F1 and Mercedes F1 engineers when Honda said they were leaving...
RBPT and Audi had been working on PU development much longer than the current Honda PU team.
All PU teams have had PU issues, dnf's including DNS's. Honda will catch up, but they don't need the most powerful PU if chassis/aero/tyre/fuel window is optimum. There's a lot of players in a team and making sure it's a team

People should stop repeating this nonsense. No-one from engine design came from Sakura to the UK.

[F1RAM]

About as good a weekend as could have been hoped. The engine doesn't matter around here but they'll need Honda to find at least 30hp to stay in this position fighting the Haas and Williams after the break. If the future upgrades unlock more performance I could see Aston ending the season fighting for a point or two on merit at certain tracks.

It does matter tho.. Alonso had to send two dive bombs on Sainz and Bearman at T1 on new tyres to get by, on exit they even came back ahead just coz of the engine.

With a better engine... what could have been possible, open to imagination.

[gearboxtrouble]

I very much doubt the gap is 90-100 hp. I suspect they are around 60-70 off on peak power with the rest of the deficit coming from harvesting limitations due to the integration and gearbox problems. A realistic upper limit for what is possible at Zandvoort is they close the gap to where Ferrari and Audi were in terms of overall performance at Melbourne. There is near zero chance they can find enough to get near the Mercedes and RBPT engines.They will likely still have the weakest engine for all of 2026 but if they can at least be situationally competitive they can start to think about challenging the front of the midfield in 2027.

[ispano6]

He did as them to ask Honda about the rear suspension failure did he?

Little sensitive are you?

Not quite sure what you mean to say about the rear suspension. Did someone place blame on Honda for the rear suspension failure?

The vibrations were of a nature that wasn't experienced before in the A-spec chassis. Still, Honda understood immediately what the issue was and made effective use of their countermeasures. Honda had become aware of the nature of AMRs oscillations that manifest in the chassis and know how the integration needs to be. Newey when he was asked didn't know the nature but was quick to mention Honda. Krack would have used different diction. It's been noted by Yamamoto that Horner and Marko were VERY keen not to disrespect Honda which in turn Honda repaid with unwavering commitment. Respect is probably MORE important than failure. Disrespect will lead to resentment, as we saw with McLaren. Orihara is in his first year and is an easy target. If it were Tanabe and his stoic nature I believe the treatment would be different. People talk of this massive power deficit without really understanding why the deficit even exists. Orihara said the upgrade will be a big step, so why not trust his words? If Tanabe were saying it, some probably wouldn't doubt it.

BTW, prior to the season, Tetsushi Kakuda, the MGUK engineer who worked with HondaJet on the previous MGUK breakthrough stated they are confident in their hybrid portion of the PU and that the preseason struggles leading up to homologation were all on the ICE side. Fortunately Honda rounded up key members of the previous dreamteam after those individuals completed their assignments from their projects. There are two teams working on the PUs due to the kneejerk 52/48 split and fuel flow debacle which is actually costing power unit suppliers more and given the annually changing power split , fuel flow rate, Honda's strengths would be diminished every following year. It's a headache for the PU department and the talk of V8s is a literal facepalm and shaking of heads. But Honda is working to find a way and meet the challenge doing it the Honda way. They are raising the young engineers who are gaining confidence in how to develop the PU with this new sustainable fuel supplier. I won't speak badly about Aramco but the Saudi giant is facing its own challenges. I do know the situation would be different if they were working with ExxonMobil, but we are where we are.

I have full confidence that like the fairytale story of from ashes to 21/22 races won in a dominant fashion, Honda again will prevail. Never underestimate the Power of Dreams and the passion of Honda. AMR and Honda are gaining synergy and it takes two to tango. We're going dancing again and going from line dancing to waltz. Soon we'll be foxtroting, and next year we'll tango.

[Otromundo]

Thank you very much for your answers, Diffuser & TyreSlip. I didn’t understand the reason to switch back to the 'S' because I thought ALO would stick with 'M' until the end. It seemed like the best option to me.

Now I understand everything better. I don’t think ALO is upset about finishing behind Lance. I’m sure he’ll be very happy to see that both of them finally finished the race.

I had thought that after using the 'S' maybe he was disappointed with the performance of the 'M' and they were going for a final push. Or that it was something agreed with the team to compare/check something between him and Lance.

Now the only thing that worries me is what I said before: that tire degradation could get much worse if Honda finds the +50 kW they need. Or that on more demanding circuits for the engine (Hungaroring doesn’t seem like one to me) something similar could happen even if there isn’t such a big power increase.