Jambier wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 14:57
Badger wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 12:51
SSJ4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 11:40
The Honda is a long way behind the other power units - something in the region of of about 1.5secs per lap off the best, Aston Martin believe internally.
The impending upgrade will not narrow that gap completely. But it is hoped that it will narrow about a third of it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/ar ... 9e188m751o
However, according to what AutoRacer learned, the step that the Japanese motorist will take on the track will not be marginal, but should guarantee a performance increase in the order of half a second per lap, equivalent to 35 hp. Of course, since the gap is very wide from the top in terms of power (we are talking about 90 hp), with this new specification we should not think that Honda is going to close the gap with other engines
https://autoracer.it/aston-martin-amr26 ... uo-valere/
90HP sounds exaggerated. The rule of thumb used to be 1% power = 0,15s of lap time on average. So if you are losing 1,5s of time because of engine power that would be a 10% deficit, or in this case around 40kW (54HP). That may be closer to 1s in Hungary and more like 2s on a track like Spa.
Keep in mind Alonso was only 1,8s behind in Q1 in Hungary.
Everyone is throwing out wildly different numbers which is an indication they have no clue. Honda and its acolytes also have previous form in terms of being over-optimistic in their predictions. A hefty dose of realism and reason is needed here. I think anything close to a 20 HP upgrade (running reliably) would be a very good start.
Engines are about 1000hp so yes 10% / 90HP seems right
If they are still 50hp down after the upgrade it will still be difficult to do something.
Maybe for 2027 being only 20-30hp down and close the gap in 2028
Can you explain where you got 10% and why are you comparing it to 1000HP?
ADUO is for the ICE only. Here are the ranges for ADUO and the allowances they get:
The number of in‑season upgrades scales with the deficit —
2–4% adrift gets two upgrades in 2026 and 2027;
4–6% gets four;
6–8% gets six;
8–10% gets eight
As far as I know, the FIA granted Honda 2 upgrade allowance, that puts them in 2-4% from the top ICE.
Assumming the top ICE makes 500HP
2–4% of 500 horsepower ranges from 10 HP to 20 HP
4-6% is 20HP to 30HP
6-8% is 30HP to 40 HP
2-4% is still 20 to 40HP out of of 1000 horsepower
4-6% is 40HP to 60HP
6-8% is 60HP to 80 HP
Now, if they are in the 6-8% range, they get 6 ADUO allowances? Is this number correct?
From ASWEB
—— I heard you plan to introduce a new engine at the 12th round, the Dutch GP. I believe the trigger for this was the new system 'ADUO (Additional Development Upgrade Opportunities)' applied to power unit development starting in 2026. This system allows PU manufacturers who are lagging behind competitors to take multiple measures to accelerate their development if their performance is judged to be 2–4% or more lower than competitors. How was it when the FIA notified you of this? Were you shocked to find that it doesn't produce so much horsepower compared to the top engine? Or was it within expectations based on various data?
Shintaro Orihara, Trackside General Manager and Chief Engineer (hereafter, GM Orihara): "Well, it was within expectations. We had a rough grasp of the competitiveness, so we understood how much we were losing. The figures from the FIA were almost the same as what we had known, so I think they are reasonable figures."