Forget Hamilton, any team with two No 1 drivers is not going to win the WDC unless they have a dominant car, see 2024 as example.edu2703 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 17:14Honestly, for me, Hamilton's WDC chances ended today.
If Ferrari is still thinking of prioritizing Hamilton, demoting Leclerc to second driver, it's already too late for that. Any team order will be more about preventing Leclerc from killing Hamilton on the track with his ego and at least keeping the fight for P2 in the WCC, which is even proving difficult with McLaren's improvement.
The engine improvement is still good. We didn't do bad on a track like this which is our worst case scenario. I still see us winning some more races... Well until the Mercedes update comes out and obliterates everone else.IntrinsicVoid wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 17:04All this driver ying-yang and yet again we see the team dissapointing on trackside and engine side, there is no way Hamilton has a shot on WDC with Mercedes being this strong. Lets not even go on how they get an ADUO out of this.
So stop this driver infighting, just like Vanja predicted before Hamilton starting to drive for Ferrari, this thread will become a cesspoll and without surprise to anyone, it did. This is a thread for Ferrari fans, and not for "measuring my driver" contest.
Leclerc stayed on the racing line like any other driver would do. Lewis should have backed off like Piastri did with Max. - Palmeredu2703 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 16:25I suppose it’s a tough job for you, coming here every race weekend and digging through a folder of excuses to defend him. As always, it’s never his fault. It’s always the fault of the brakes, the tires, the team, or the other drivers. "Il Predestinato" is incapable of doing anything wrong.woocasz wrote: ↑ The first chicane, that's a racing incident, not sure what Hamilton was expecting after his late dive, a wave through?
Hamilton was very aggressive with his divebomb at T1, so he got the same treatment at T2.
Leclerc stayed on the racing line like any other driver would do. Lewis should have backed off like Piastri did with Max. Palmer and Coulthard said exactly the same thing.![]()
By the way, I’m not interested in hearing arguments. Leclerc pushed Hamilton off the track in an unnecessary move, then ruined his own race with a rookie mistake, and nothing is going to make me think otherwise.
Rosberg said 100 percent Leclerc's fault as he left no space and considering Palmer was a midfield driver and Rosberg is a champion I would take his opinion over Palmer's. But at this point it's too late. They lost everything.
Ferrari don't have two number 1 drivers. They have a 7x WDC in 1 car and a pretender in the other who crashes too much. They can't sack him because of sentiment. Being quick on a qualy lap does not make a WDC and Leclerc's deficiencies both in his ability to lead the team and to simply bring the car back with the wheels attached are being laid bare this year. Leclerc's story has been romanticized to the heavens and that's why guys here like deadhead keep memory holing Leclerc's error rate and trying to claim he's a consistent driver while making digs at Hamilton and other WDCs every other day (he likes to claim anybody can be WDC and Leclerc "just doesn't have the car"). Hamilton is old enough to be Antonelli's uncle and leads "prime Leclerc" in the points and has simply been the better driver. That is what Leclerc's career is worth today. It's harsh, but it's true. People need a reality check about Charles Leclerc and winning a random British GP or a random GP in the 2nd half doesn't invalidate this.
Well saidAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 17:37
Ferrari don't have two number 1 drivers. They have a 7x WDC in 1 car and a pretender in the other who crashes too much. They can't sack him because of sentiment. Being quick on a qualy lap does not make a WDC and Leclerc's deficiencies both in his ability to lead the team and to simply bring the car back with the wheels attached are being laid bare this year. Leclerc's story has been romanticized to the heavens and that's why guys like deadhead on here keep memory holing Leclerc's error rate while making digs at Hamilton and other WDCs every other day (he likes to claim anybody can be WDC and Leclerc just doesn't have the car). Hamilton is old enough to be Antonelli's uncle and leads "prime Leclerc" in the points and has simply been the better driver. That is what Leclerc's career is worth today.
Rosberg also smacked the crap out of Brundle who seems to think we are still using rules from the 80' and 90's.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 17:34Rosberg said 100 percent Leclerc's fault as he left no space and considering Palmer was a midfield driver and Rosberg is a champion I would take his opinion over Palmer's. But at this point it's too late. They lost everything.
You well know your car and your teammate are the top 2 indicators of WDC success in F1?AR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 17:37Ferrari don't have two number 1 drivers. They have a 7x WDC in 1 car and a pretender in the other who crashes too much. They can't sack him because of sentiment. Being quick on a qualy lap does not make a WDC and Leclerc's deficiencies both in his ability to lead the team and to simply bring the car back with the wheels attached are being laid bare this year. Leclerc's story has been romanticized to the heavens and that's why guys here like deadhead keep memory holing Leclerc's error rate and trying to claim he's a consistent driver while making digs at Hamilton and other WDCs every other day (he likes to claim anybody can be WDC and Leclerc "just doesn't have the car"). Hamilton is old enough to be Antonelli's uncle and leads "prime Leclerc" in the points and has simply been the better driver. That is what Leclerc's career is worth today. It's harsh, but it's true.
Sphere3758 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2026, 11:13The only thing more hilarious will be when Charles gets ahead of him in points and Ferrari decides to "back one driver"