Pound for pound, in recent times, I think Charles has gotten the .most shock poles. He springs up when he's not even a contender for pole. The people you just mentioned almost always had a pole contender car for the weekend. I don't think after FP3 anyone fancied a McLaren for pole. I'm in no way putting Charles on the same level as the guys you mentioned, but he has been known to steal a shock pole quite a few times when not even fancied.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 18:45More like a Lewis Hamilton, Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher. Leclerc hasnt proven to me hes in that level yet. I still am trying to find out how he found 7 to 8 tenths because that is how much it was if we dont count the mistake.
I thought he challenged last year?Mcl_G10 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 20:34Piastri 7th and nearly half a second back.
At this point are we better off having a bonifide 2nd driver instead? Will piastri ever be good enough to challenge for a WDC? I doubt it. Id rather have someone in that car that is good but knows they are no2 and will not hamper the no1 driver.
Sorry I know its likely an unpopular opinion.
Fernando Alonso anyone?Mcl_G10 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 20:34Piastri 7th and nearly half a second back.
At this point are we better off having a bonifide 2nd driver instead? Will piastri ever be good enough to challenge for a WDC? I doubt it. Id rather have someone in that car that is good but knows they are no2 and will not hamper the no1 driver.
Sorry I know its likely an unpopular opinion.
Nah, the jinx thing used to be a silly and sometimes funny joke, but it's happened too often. He's had 2 spells with the team. The first cost them a $100M fine. The 2nd, $120M in wages, with a couple of P5's. I'm not saying it's all his fault, but chaos just seems to follow him. He's 46 next year, not worth the risk of the famous jinx.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 20:35Fernando Alonso anyone?Mcl_G10 wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 20:34Piastri 7th and nearly half a second back.
At this point are we better off having a bonifide 2nd driver instead? Will piastri ever be good enough to challenge for a WDC? I doubt it. Id rather have someone in that car that is good but knows they are no2 and will not hamper the no1 driver.
Sorry I know its likely an unpopular opinion.
Have you seen the no. of poles Charles has, while driving less than ideal cars?Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 18:45More like a Lewis Hamilton, Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher. Leclerc hasnt proven to me hes in that level yet. I still am trying to find out how he found 7 to 8 tenths because that is how much it was if we dont count the mistake.
No, team stream (app) said Norris was on new softs for the first run while Piastri was on used. This was because Norris had better lap in Q2 and went out on used for a second run in Q2 (again team stream).avantman wrote: ↑12 Sep 2026, 21:10Didn’t they both run their first Q3 runs on a used set? I’m not sure why people are so surprised to see a car that started from pole twice in the past three rounds on pole again.
Oscar himself literally said that his second—and only Q3 lap on new tyres—was horrendous and full of mistakes. Norris made a mistake worth three tenths according to the team’s data, as Stella pointed out. And now we’re pretending that McLaren isn’t the fastest car over one lap on a track like this, and that it’s just Lando suddenly pulling a Senna lap time time after time again.
And by the way, Norris gained only just over three and a half tenths in S1 on his pole lap compared with his best lap in Q2. And I’m not sure whether he was running on new or used tyres for that Q2 lap. Still a lot, but nothing close to the six tenths someone was talking about.