2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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diffuser wrote:
16 Sep 2026, 16:33
etusch wrote:
16 Sep 2026, 16:15
That is something that makes things worse. Because, according to the FIA, the Red Bull engine is the most powerful one. No one other than the FIA ​​believes this.
The FIA don't have to believe. They have sensors that gather data from all cars that show it. So you see the Mercedes car is faster and think it has to be the ICE is more powerful. The FIA aren't looking at that, it's just looking at sensor data. Merc isn't faster cause the ICE is more powerfull, it's just that the Mercedes is a better all around car, while RBR just has a better ICE.

if you look at the qualifying data between Max and Ant https://www.gp-tempo.com/app?year=2026& ... =telemetry

It easy to make the argument that Max has more power, it's just doesn't carry as much speed in corners.
Now, this is very interesting. When you consider the conversations that keep going round and round on this topic...

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Ben Sulayem first, and now Wolff and Mekies saying they agree with extraordinary concessions for the good of the sport.

Obviously, I think that even if they don't say it publicly, there is already an agreement on those concessions, and we can only speculate until they make them public. But while everyone is talking about more development hours or an increase in the spending limit, I don't think that's Honda's main problem, and in a way, that is already covered by ADUO.

I think Honda's main problem is time, and, playing the guessing game about the future... what if what Ben Sulayem is talking about, and what he is proposing to the other teams in order to get them to agree, is giving Honda more time to homologate the 2027 engine, or even allowing them to carry out a second homologation during the season?

All of this is because I still think the engine must have other problems that we haven't been told about, problems that can't be solved simply by optimizing combustion, and that perhaps require a new version that won't be ready for the start of 2027.

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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... er-battle/
The huge 2026 F1 technology change that's going under the radar

Core Thesis: While media debate fixated on battery depletion ("super-clipping") and the 50/50 hybrid split, the shift to 100% sustainable fuel is the underlying factor governing engine performance.

Key Insights: According to BP motorsport fluids technology lead Luc Jolly, battery energy availability is inextricably linked to internal combustion engine (ICE) output. Because the ICE acts as a primary energy generator for the hybrid loop, the calorific efficiency of the bespoke fuel blend determines how much total energy a car can deploy across a lap.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/arti ... /?hl=en-US

F1's hidden fuel war: the 'boring' topic that could define its new era

Core Thesis: Terms the chemical development race between fuel suppliers (Aramco, BP, Petronas, Shell, ExxonMobil) the "hidden front" of the technical reset.

Key Insights: Sustainable feedstocks (synthetic e-fuels and municipal/agricultural waste) naturally present lower energy density, higher oxygen content, and combustion rate variability compared to fossil gasoline. Achieving knock resistance, rapid flame-front propagation, and batch-to-batch molecular consistency at high cylinder pressures is the single biggest performance differentiator among engine manufacturers.

The two key publications that covered these specific statements regarding Aramco’s 2026 F1 synthetic e-fuel program and their technical partnership with Honda (HRC) are:
​Motorsport.com / Autosport
​The Coverage: Highlighted statements from Aramco's technical leadership regarding their rapid development curve for the 2026 100% sustainable fuel regulations.
​Key Details: The piece focused on Aramco claiming to have closed a massive development gap in just a few months—achieving octane, knock-resistance, and energy density metrics that legacy F1 fuel stalwarts (such as Shell, Petronas, and ExxonMobil) spent years refining through decades of continuous track data.
​Formu1a.uno (also covered in depth by Formula1.it)
​The Coverage: Detailed the direct engineering feedback loop between Honda Racing Corporation (HRC) in Sakura and Aramco’s fuel development lab in Dhahran/Paris.
​Key Details: This analysis quoted Aramco technical representatives acknowledging that entering high-strung, 100% synthetic e-fuel formulation for Turbulent Jet Ignition (TJI) pre-chamber engines was uncharted territory for them. The article detailed how Aramco relied heavily on Honda’s single-cylinder test rig data and combustion kinetics guidance to learn the specific chemical properties required to optimize flame propagation and prevent auto-ignition under 2026 power unit constraints.

Of course Newey played up Aramco without really knowing the situation of F2 and F3 relevance:
https://sector.world/2026/02/how-f1-fue ... e-of-2026/
Aston Martin Aramco F1 team principal, Adrian Newey, outlined the big changes oil giant and technical partner Aramco had to make behind the scenes to produce fuels that fit the governing body’s specifications. 
“They’ve had to reorganise. They’ve had to expand their facilities in certain areas to suit what is a very specific challenge: developing a fuel for an F1 team,” said Newey.
“Aramco is already experienced in this area as a supplier of low-carbon fuels to other formulas, such as F2, F3, and F1 Academy. Of course, F1 being what it is, we want to take their knowledge and expertise much further.”
This proven experience has given Aramco a head start, having developed sustainable fuels since 2022, and Newey believes this has been key to Aston Martin reaching the performance benchmarks of its Honda power unit.
“Aramco is absolutely pivotal for us here because of how they develop fuel, as are Valvoline, which is developing the oil, to suit the work Honda is doing and are a big part of a very complicated, but very important, equation.
“Without having a technical partner and fuel supplier with Aramco’s expertise, Honda’s development of the power unit would be restricted. That, in turn, would restrict us. The work Aramco are doing is going to stand us in very good stead.”
https://www.raceteq.com/articles/2026/0 ... ic-f1-race
“Now the big challenge for us is Formula 1 next year,” says Calendini.  

“We are introducing FIA-compliant 100% Advanced Sustainable Fuel with Aston Martin Aramco Formula 1 Team and Honda to comply with new FIA regulations. It will be a very interesting year.”  

“We’re the new challengers here and, in the space of a few years, we’ve accomplished what competitors have managed over decades.”
https://jp.motorsport.com/f1/news/f2-f3 ... /10686891/
Pierre-Oliver Carendini, Director of Aramco's Fuel Research Center:

As mentioned earlier, the fuel used in F2 and F3 is bio-derived. However, in the future, synthetic fuels will be produced using carbon dioxide captured from the air and hydrogen produced by electrolyzing water...... They aim to achieve so-called e-fuel. From 2026, it is highly likely that the fuel used in Aston Martin F1 will be this e-fuel.

"F1 and F2 use different fuels and regulations. After all, the engines aren't the same."

That's what Calendini says.

"Even if some components are the same, the fields we compete on are different."

"Depending on the engine regulations, the fuel itself can vary quite a bit. Motorsports...... Especially in F1, it's necessary to adjust the fuel composition to maximize power. Other competitors...... Shell, Petronas, and ExxonMobil are pushing their limits to deliver top performance.

"On the other hand, F2 and F3 use the same engine and the same fuel. You can balance performance."

However, in the fundamental aspect of producing sustainable fuel, it may be an advantage...... When asked this, Calendini explained:

"To be honest, that's not true. On the contrary, you could say that everything we do with our partners has helped us gain knowledge."
Aramco can talk the talk, but they'll have to prove they can walk the walk.

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ispano6 wrote:
16 Sep 2026, 17:52
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... er-battle/
The huge 2026 F1 technology change that's going under the radar

Core Thesis: While media debate fixated on battery depletion ("super-clipping") and the 50/50 hybrid split, the shift to 100% sustainable fuel is the underlying factor governing engine performance.

Key Insights: According to BP motorsport fluids technology lead Luc Jolly, battery energy availability is inextricably linked to internal combustion engine (ICE) output. Because the ICE acts as a primary energy generator for the hybrid loop, the calorific efficiency of the bespoke fuel blend determines how much total energy a car can deploy across a lap.

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/arti ... /?hl=en-US

F1's hidden fuel war: the 'boring' topic that could define its new era

Core Thesis: Terms the chemical development race between fuel suppliers (Aramco, BP, Petronas, Shell, ExxonMobil) the "hidden front" of the technical reset.

Key Insights: Sustainable feedstocks (synthetic e-fuels and municipal/agricultural waste) naturally present lower energy density, higher oxygen content, and combustion rate variability compared to fossil gasoline. Achieving knock resistance, rapid flame-front propagation, and batch-to-batch molecular consistency at high cylinder pressures is the single biggest performance differentiator among engine manufacturers.

The two key publications that covered these specific statements regarding Aramco’s 2026 F1 synthetic e-fuel program and their technical partnership with Honda (HRC) are:
​Motorsport.com / Autosport
​The Coverage: Highlighted statements from Aramco's technical leadership regarding their rapid development curve for the 2026 100% sustainable fuel regulations.
​Key Details: The piece focused on Aramco claiming to have closed a massive development gap in just a few months—achieving octane, knock-resistance, and energy density metrics that legacy F1 fuel stalwarts (such as Shell, Petronas, and ExxonMobil) spent years refining through decades of continuous track data.
​Formu1a.uno (also covered in depth by Formula1.it)
​The Coverage: Detailed the direct engineering feedback loop between Honda Racing Corporation (HRC) in Sakura and Aramco’s fuel development lab in Dhahran/Paris.
​Key Details: This analysis quoted Aramco technical representatives acknowledging that entering high-strung, 100% synthetic e-fuel formulation for Turbulent Jet Ignition (TJI) pre-chamber engines was uncharted territory for them. The article detailed how Aramco relied heavily on Honda’s single-cylinder test rig data and combustion kinetics guidance to learn the specific chemical properties required to optimize flame propagation and prevent auto-ignition under 2026 power unit constraints.

Of course Newey played up Aramco without really knowing the situation of F2 and F3 relevance:
https://sector.world/2026/02/how-f1-fue ... e-of-2026/
Aston Martin Aramco F1 team principal, Adrian Newey, outlined the big changes oil giant and technical partner Aramco had to make behind the scenes to produce fuels that fit the governing body’s specifications. 
“They’ve had to reorganise. They’ve had to expand their facilities in certain areas to suit what is a very specific challenge: developing a fuel for an F1 team,” said Newey.
“Aramco is already experienced in this area as a supplier of low-carbon fuels to other formulas, such as F2, F3, and F1 Academy. Of course, F1 being what it is, we want to take their knowledge and expertise much further.”
This proven experience has given Aramco a head start, having developed sustainable fuels since 2022, and Newey believes this has been key to Aston Martin reaching the performance benchmarks of its Honda power unit.
“Aramco is absolutely pivotal for us here because of how they develop fuel, as are Valvoline, which is developing the oil, to suit the work Honda is doing and are a big part of a very complicated, but very important, equation.
“Without having a technical partner and fuel supplier with Aramco’s expertise, Honda’s development of the power unit would be restricted. That, in turn, would restrict us. The work Aramco are doing is going to stand us in very good stead.”
https://www.raceteq.com/articles/2026/0 ... ic-f1-race
“Now the big challenge for us is Formula 1 next year,” says Calendini.  

“We are introducing FIA-compliant 100% Advanced Sustainable Fuel with Aston Martin Aramco Formula 1 Team and Honda to comply with new FIA regulations. It will be a very interesting year.”  

“We’re the new challengers here and, in the space of a few years, we’ve accomplished what competitors have managed over decades.”
https://jp.motorsport.com/f1/news/f2-f3 ... /10686891/
Pierre-Oliver Carendini, Director of Aramco's Fuel Research Center:

As mentioned earlier, the fuel used in F2 and F3 is bio-derived. However, in the future, synthetic fuels will be produced using carbon dioxide captured from the air and hydrogen produced by electrolyzing water...... They aim to achieve so-called e-fuel. From 2026, it is highly likely that the fuel used in Aston Martin F1 will be this e-fuel.

"F1 and F2 use different fuels and regulations. After all, the engines aren't the same."

That's what Calendini says.

"Even if some components are the same, the fields we compete on are different."

"Depending on the engine regulations, the fuel itself can vary quite a bit. Motorsports...... Especially in F1, it's necessary to adjust the fuel composition to maximize power. Other competitors...... Shell, Petronas, and ExxonMobil are pushing their limits to deliver top performance.

"On the other hand, F2 and F3 use the same engine and the same fuel. You can balance performance."

However, in the fundamental aspect of producing sustainable fuel, it may be an advantage...... When asked this, Calendini explained:

"To be honest, that's not true. On the contrary, you could say that everything we do with our partners has helped us gain knowledge."
Aramco can talk the talk, but they'll have to prove they can walk the walk.
And they do at every time the fuel is tested and it passes the FIA criteria and proves to be as good as everyone elses.

Based on your opinion, NEW F1 PU manufacturers like AUDI or RBPT could never beat a proven race and constructors winner like Honda.

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I hope Honda can get a decent PU soon... Be it with our without help.

That said, it makes me kind of sad to see a great brand like Honda being so embarrassing, having failed SO BAD this year.

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People only want to call out Honda has embarrassing because they had unrealistic expectations. Honda wasn't embarrassing working with Toro Rosso and working their way up. It's just like McLaren, their fans and Alonsos fans so quick to denigrate Honda because their hero isn't given a car he can compete with. Seems like the same crowd has moved to the AMR team.
Honda fans enjoy watching Honda overcome the challenges and rise to the top. We never expect them to be #1 always. It's all about the learning and growing process. Perhaps Honda needs a different team to improve as Aston themselves were 9th best team last year by Alonso's admission. Maybe they ought to partner with Williams instead.

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Red Bull chose Honda after many years of Renault producing the second-worst engine and stalling on increasing spending to close the gap, leading to strained relations. Honda was further behind but not that far so might as well and focus on long-term and more ambition and potential.

Williams... the only good thing about that car is the engine. Literally the only single thing. They have great relations with Mercedes and a former Mercedes team principal. I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if it happens, but I see it as very, very unlikely.

Ispano you are not too different from the Alonso fanatics you criticize but for Honda instead. Two sides of the same coin, different worship but same bias.