I understand what you mean, though it is certain that your statements are incorrect. Honda also aims to win; they are simply more patient.Bill wrote: ↑17 Sep 2026, 19:31
you are projecting your own desires and expectation on honda,they knew what they were doing when they put inexperienced staff on their new pu project ,just because some fan with no skin in the game want to see their best team do well that it does not follow that honda share the same goal as you.honda has said numerous time it wants its engineers learn to work together learn from their mistake and find solution to their own problems without help from outside,for a large cooperation trophies and euphoria from winning does not do anything for them ,thats why i think honda would be better if they own there team since the goal and timeline for success will always clash with team they partner with.
I also agree with what you said about their working methods. I heard this from an academic who had conducted research in both Korea and the US through his university. He recounted a story about a software project where the team got stuck at a certain point; when he suggested asking a professor for help, no one agreed. They objected, arguing that doing so would imply an admission of failure—that they couldn't handle the task—and consequently, they wasted a lot of time trying to solve it themselves. The man had remarked that if they didn't work inefficiently due to overwork and get stuck on such issues, no one could compete with them because they are working working and working.
That same academic said that in the US, students would go straight to the professor without hesitation to ask about the parts where they were stuck, and both parties viewed this as their duties.
In my own professional life, I also witness how working without breaks can prevent one from spotting even the simplest errors.
I also watched a documentary on Deutsche Welle. An engineer who had founded a company focused on hydrogen fuel discussed how the German government had announced support packages for companies developing hydrogen-powered engines, suggesting that the Germans would now be prioritizing hydrogen projects as well. One of the interesting things he said was this: Toyota and Hyundai have had hydrogen-powered vehicles driving on German streets for ten years. They have been investing in this technology for a long time, and their CEOs do not expect immediate profits from it. In contrast, he noted that in Germany, if a CEO launches a project but fails to show results on the income statement within two years, they get fired.
I say this all the time, but I don't think the Mercedes engine truly belongs to Mercedes. The same goes for Red Bull's. However, Ferrari and Honda have their own engines. Ferrari’s advantage, compared to Honda, is its greater flexibility in turning to outside sources. In my opinion, Ferrari’s approach is the ideal one: the engine is a Ferrari engine and the engineers are Ferrari engineers, yet they are sufficiently open to acquiring knowledge from elsewhere. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Knowledge becomes yours once you acquire it—regardless of its origin. That said, there is perhaps an added sense of pride when both elements are truly your own. Despite everything, I love the Japanese work, even if sometimes I feel strange due to cultural differences.
