Ferrari F10

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In this pic if you look close there is a "bump" on the right side mirror, or the drivers left mirror on the inside part of the mirror. What is that??



http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/F1003new.jpg
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marcush.
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finger camera

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In this pic if you look close there is a "bump" on the right side mirror, or the drivers left mirror on the inside part of the mirror. What is that??
It's a driver facing camera, Ferrari have mounted one of the maditory tv cameras there for some years now.

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Thanks! I had that in mind but I was thinking a rear facing camera. #-o
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It looks nice and sleek!
Too early to make any definative distinctions in
terms of relative competativness.
I will go out on a limb and say I think it will
surpass last seasons results. 8)
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Tazio wrote:I will go out on a limb and say I think it will
surpass last seasons results. 8)
When you think how they struggled in '09, you begin to wonder have they done enough different to not only improve on the F60, but to catch up to the also (assumed) improved versions from McLaren, Red Bull & Mercedes for 2010..

Unless the F60 only needed a few minor mods to unlock a lot of potential.. but i'm worried for them. there's not a huge amount different, and it already looks cumbersome compared to the FW32 spy shot..
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Good shot of the rear area.
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Scarbs posted this on his site and tweeted about it (Yes I follow scarbs on twitter):

why do 2010 cars all look like the 2009 Red Bull

Very interesting read.
In fact the cars don’t look like the RB5, but simply one major cosmetic aspect of the car has been inspired by Adrian Newey’s design, the nose. Newey himself terms it a “V” nose, not to be confused with the Renault “V” keel. Modern F1 cars all use raised nosed to improve airflow in between the front wheels and hence towards the rear of the car. The better airflow you can get up front the better the airflow routed over the top of the diffuser, and hence create more downforce.
Since the early nineties and up until last year teams conformed to the FIA technical regulations, where by the foot well of the car had to be a minimum of width and height. This of course suggests a rectangular cross section, and teams followed the rules to the letter (see below - left). What Newey realised is that the rules demand these minimum measurements, but not relation to each other. Thus the edges of the rectangle can be raised up and the middle drooped, creating the so called “V“ shape(see below - right). This reduces the obstruction between the wheels as the lower edges of the nose are chamfered.

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This shaping is only really visible when the nose cone is removed and the cross section of the front bulkhead is exposed (see below in highlighted yellow). When the car is in race condition, the giveaway of the “V” nose are the two humps on either side of the top of the nose. These have little effect on aerodynamics or the drivers visibility.

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Aside from the “V” nose, the RB5 soon found itself unsuited to the rise of the double diffuser. Its low line sidepods, pull rod suspension, gearbox and rear crash structure, all actually hindered the cars being as good as it could be. These rear end design features are not likely to be copied by other teams 2010. It was testament to the cars initial advantage as the fastest ‘non double diffuser’ car, that it remained a leader on pace up until the end of the season.

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Fil wrote:
Tazio wrote:I will go out on a limb and say I think it will
surpass last seasons results. 8)
When you think how they struggled in '09, you begin to wonder have they done enough different to not only improve on the F60, but to catch up to the also (assumed) improved versions from McLaren, Red Bull & Mercedes for 2010..

Unless the F60 only needed a few minor mods to unlock a lot of potential.. but i'm worried for them. there's not a huge amount different, and it already looks cumbersome compared to the FW32 spy shot..
Very legitimate concerns!
That's why I've put myself out on a limb! :?
I don't think weve seen the car that will start in Bahrain!
I don't think they will start on their backfoot like last years disaster
that was largely due to not going down the DDD road
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jddh1 wrote:Unless the F60 only needed a few minor mods to unlock a lot of potential.. but i'm worried for them. there's not a huge amount different
Well, apparently the Launch F10 still has the old F60 front & rear wings on it. Soo.. the new as yet unrevealed ones might actually turn out completely different come testing in Valencia.

Personally I don't think they'll look radically diff, but rather be a refinement over the previous ones.

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Upon closer inspection, interesting mounting of the lower front wishbones, and the diffuser area is bound to have something interesting.

I still doubt Ferrari can achieve a significant improvement this year. Far too much competition from Mercedes and McLaren.

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personally i dont think it matters that it is very different to the f60. They have although incorporated the V nose solution very fluidly into the car, so it looks like a f60 with a slightly dif nose. They havent bolted on all the lauded solutions from last year but it looks as though they have assessed which ones will work for their car and assimilated them into their basic design.
Unless the F60 only needed a few minor mods to unlock a lot of potential.. but i'm worried for them. there's not a huge amount different
i agree with this. listen, the f60 was a dog, no arguement there but i think fundamentally it was solid.

only thing that worries me is last year they said the f60 was designed around KERS. but KERS as a completed dead end when it came to development. This year they're saying its designed around the DDD. as a fan i hope the fight and the focus of development is the DDD. otherwise ferrari might have missed the boat. again.
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alelanza wrote:By the way, interesting comparison tool, do notice the slider on the projection views:

http://www.marca.com/2010/01/28/multime ... 05371.html
Something isn't correct in the top view comparison. The cockpit is to long and the front axel to far backwards.

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Ferrari may be working on 'B' spec F10
espnf1.com wrote: (...)
The Times said that, despite cutting short development on last year's car to focus on the F10, there is speculation sweeping through the Italian media that a replacement is already on the drawing board.

It is not unusual for teams to immediately work on updates and traditionally all cars receive major tweaks after the first few fly-away races. However, the possibility that the team is already working on a 'B' spec version suggests a more fundamental revision of the design.
(...)
Speculation? Rumours? Silly Season? Not only?

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