F1 Quiz Chain

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WhiteBlue wrote:The BT46 was earlier, so that can't be the one.
Not this one, but very interesting car you mentioned. I thought one can make good question out of it.
The car in question appeared significantly later.

Also, there were probably cars with some small radiators/vents in front later than the car in question, but I mean big water radiators.

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Aurora F1 1980
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Later than that too=)

PS you DO know that car :wink:

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The Brabham BT53 and the Toleman TG183B of 1984 had oil coolers on the front nose. I don't know if you were thinking about any of these...

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dumrick wrote:The Brabham BT53 and the Toleman TG183B of 1984 had oil coolers on the front nose. I don't know if you were thinking about any of these...[/img]

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I thought of TG183B, I heard those were water coolers in front --
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Over to you, dumrick!

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Unbelievable! This was apparently the first car driven by Senna. There are very good fotos from a Goodwood appearance.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/03/18/g ... -pictures/

It is actually this years event.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Unbelievable! This was apparently the first car driven by Senna. There are very good fotos from a Goodwood appearance.
Yes, first car Senna raced in F1, but not the first F1 car he drove, that was Williams if I'm not mistaken. Another interesting bit of info is that the car was designed by Rory Byrne, a name also very significant for F1 history!

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timbo wrote:I thought of TG183B, I heard those were water coolers in front --
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You must be right, I had never seen a pic of this car w/o bodywork, but judging by the size they seem water radiators indeed (this is embarassing, I've always been a fan of Rory Byrne's work at Toleman/Benetton - which can be atested by my avatar - and didn't know this)

Now, for a question: which was the last 4-cylinder turbo engine conceived for F1?

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Alfa Romeo 4 cylinder twin turbo

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Correct!

This engine was never raced, though, altough the reason why is a bit blurry:

- Alfa was angry at Arnoux for bad public comments towards the engine or
- The engine was underpowered and unrealiable and Arnoux's comments were a good exit excuse for Alfa or
- The acquisition of Alfa by Fiat dictated the end of the program, to avoid the funding of 2 Fiat competing projects and... Arnoux's comments were a good exit excuse for Alfa :D

This engine was designed by ex-Lancia engineer Gianni Tonti, was tried in single- and twin-turbo versions and the following specs were released:

Bore: 92.0 mm
Stroke: 56.4 mm
Displacement: 1499.7 cc
Firing sequence: 1-3-4-2
Comp. ratio: 7.5:1
900 hp @10500 rpm ( given for the 195 l fuel tank )
65 Kgm @ 8500 rpm ( given for the 195 l fuel tank )
Maximum rpm: 11500
Weight: 135 Kg with turbochargers
Total number of components: 1364


Picture of the installation of the beast

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Test pictures of the Alfa Romeo-powered Ligier JS29

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Your turn, matt21!!!

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What do we see?

Year, Car and where was the picture taken?
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By they way: has anybody some picture of the Ferrari four-inline quad-turbo? there are rumours around that such a thing has been developed during 1985.

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Isn't the photographer Dereck Warwick?

EDIT: No, it was actually Darren Heath.
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I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

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It's the McLaren MP4/12 from 1997. You can see the second brake pedal on the left hand side. It was used to control one side (preferably the inside) of the rear brakes on corner exit to get more yaw. The picture was taken in the cockpit. :D

EDIT: Found this, I guess you meant Grand Prix of Luxembourg when you asked for where...
The 1997 Grand Prix of Luxembourg was held at the Nürburgring in Germany – a ruse to allow both Germany and Spain to have two Grands Prix – Spain also hosting the ‘European’ round.

It began well for McLaren with their two Mercedes cars leading ahead of the top brass from the German manufacturer. But it fell apart in the cruellest possible fashion when both David Coulthard and Mika Hakkinen’s cars ground to a halt on the start/finish line within a lap of each other.

Depressing as the spectacle was for Ron Dennis, he didn’t know things were about to get much worse. The cars stopped near F1 Racing photographer Darren Heath, who had been waiting for just such an opportunity.

He snuck over to Hakkinen’s car, thrust his camera deep into the footwell, and clicked the shutter repeatedly.

Foot operated clutches have been a thing of the past in Formula 1 for many years, so a drivers footwell typically only features an accelerator and brake. But Turner was expecting to see a third pedal when he had his roll of film developed – and that’s exactly what he found.
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OK, that is Austria 97, and we are seeing the second brake pedal as photographed by Darren Heath on Mika Hakkinen's McLaren MP4/12.

I'm sorry but I won't be able to post a question until tomorrow morning. If I'm right, that is.

EDIT: Great! I'm late!
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr

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Ouch typed an answer but Mystery Steve was faster :oops:
I'm sloooo