Mercedes GP MGP W01

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mercedes gp steering wheel picture please

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Look for it, please. :wink:
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this is mclaren's old one

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10/ Overtake button

Momentarily increases the engine revs to its 18,000rpm maximum. Helps with overtaking and scaring off pigeons.
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We can assume that it is same as last year Brawn GP:

http://www.formula1.com/photos/597x478/ ... 2-0021.jpg

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Image

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From PF1: 'Brawn giving Merc until June to win'
Monday 5th April 2010

Ross Brawn will reportedly scrap this year's Championship if Merc GP have not taken to the top step of the podium by June...

<< Full article here >>
So, is Schumi's dream of a sensational comeback season over?

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I have already concluded that two weeks ago when it became clear that the W01 isn't suiting Schumacher's driving style. It is entirely logical to focus on 2011 because Brawn runs Mercedes with half the resources that the other top team retain. In 2011 and 2012 things will improve.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

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I am waiting for the european updates, I'd like to see how the car runs with respect to schumachers performance. Cant expect much about the china I believe rosberg will still performs better.

I he cant after european updates then looks like i will be lookin for the next season car from then on.

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a) who said you need a NEW car every year? If your tub is fundamentally right I do not see any reason to change it ,if you have not found something restricting performance ,ease or speed of service etc ...there must be good reason for a new tub from now on with recources reduced...so i think the way of constant improvements is
the name of the game now..IF KERS is not reintroduced.. but talking of KERS...is the 2009 unit Mclaren or Mercedes proprietary?


b) having a major flaw or shortcoming in the car which can be erased without having to build a new tub ,Mercedes can easily make a bigger step forward then those who have not even found a fundamental shortcoming in their package.
Say Red Bull seem to have altogether a quick package ...where can they improve ? I´d say there biggest weakness is reliability ....so the process of getting better there is NOt giving any time improvements ....but it will reap a lot of benefits in points bagged. so yes the prospect of Mercedes joining RB is very well alive if their analysis off the problem was correct AND the countermeasures are erasing the problem.
unfortunatelly they seem to face the same process issues as RB ..but at the lower speed level already.. so no .. they will not be champ this year.

We could see last year their win was the speed advantage they carried for the firat half of the season and Jenson really able to bring the car home in the points when they had no chance to win anymore.It was not as if they had no tech issues... lost heavesprings ,gearbox trouble with Barrichello,Fire in Barrichellos car at the end of the race...straining engines with excessive temperatures etc..

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The Honda money wave has lost it's momentum it seems..lol

I think the W01 is not a true Mercedes. To me It's just an upgraded Honda. I feel the Mercedes people never really got the chance to give substantial input into the design of the car because of the late take over. So maybe, maybe they will do a full German revamp for 2011. They may not need to do it, but from my simple experience with BMW's (my favourite brand) just fixing and servicing, when I look at how some the parts are designed, the fasteners that they use, the general layout and design; Germans will REALLY go out of their way to get something styled to how they want it. The same at the beverage factory where I am working now. The Germans have their Caprisun product line all in one isolated unit, it's basically sealed off from the rest of the factory, the machines them self are very intersting. I can't explain but The design of it is just different from anything else.
These Germans don't play when it comes to their machines. So I agree that if the base chassis is good no need to start from scratch.. but German engineers are very weird.
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What i think is the problem with the W01 is that is that the driver it was primarily designed for isnt at the team any more. That guy is over at McLaren now. I think that Nico has beenable to adapt better to the W01 from his experience from the last 2 Williams cars where he has adapted and developed his style each year to suit the car better. I think that the car is whats limiting Michael the most as its just too smooth for his style, where the car has a little bite, where the rear end kicks out a little, the beast is already tame. He needs more of a beast to tame more to speak.

However, im giving it till after Barcelona to make a decision on the W01, like many cars, once they have had their first major update. Many cars have recived a half step update before the season began, small upgrades that have came from all the fly away races make this into a full step with baseline set-up understanding as well.

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Smikle has a point,

The car isnt a fully fledged Mercedes-Benz. I See it as being a hybrid of Brawn/Honda/Merc at present, Maybe not so much honda but their money was used in the process so we cannot overlook that.
I would like to know how many actual Mercedes-Benz engineers there are in the Brackley factory.
Schumacher said the place was swarming with Germans in an interview when he first visited the place. That was not the case post-Mercedes for sure.
I do hope the Mooted euro update is as good as they think.

Marcush
KERS is Mercedes domain, not McLaren. Its actually a joint venture between Mercedes and another company(Bosch?) but Mercedes foots the bill.
More could have been done.
David Purley

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honestly speaking Norbert had to learn an awful lot in those years in F1 .And their

engine facilities in Stuttgart ,stemming from Group C days was a big obstacle for Ilmor back then as the german ways knew it all better but somehow it did not help performance.. so I BET no involvement no nothing of teutonian schulmeister approach towards Brawn.... they are going to say this is the recources we supply ..we want to have the title .full stop,end of story.

In all honesty Brawn is the best in organising everything as necessary and he ´s the guy to have to keep them all focussed on the task.
And lets not forget these guys must have the biggest database of all teams for the new regs with all the tunnel work they have done. No wonder their car does not change too much.
And: looking at the 2009 vs 2010 cars Brawn/mercedes is surely not the team who was playing conservative... in fact they have changed their whole tub philosophy ...tub crosssection-from square to v shaped ,steering rack position,rollover structure,delete snowplough splitter,airbox....etc .thats an awful lot for a car that won it all last year...