Newey and RBR

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greenpower dude reloaded
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Newey and RBR

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Now is it just me or do you think the idea of having Newey at RBR rather than STR is a missed opertunity for Red bull, i mean they have the V10 although restricted, it is still rumoured to be more powerful so shouldn't they be focusing on STR as they already have a slight advantage this season with the aim to carry over anything learned/developed over to the other team. I know that there are all sorts of rules preventing teams from using other current teams chassis but still they don't have to be working that closely to be able to learn from the experience gained in each team.

I dunno this is just my opinion what does every1 else think?

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I think that RBR is clearly the number one team and the other is something of a feeder team.

There is no point diluting the resources available to the main team to prop up the other. They need to get Newey focused on the future development of the cars (and that means the whole package, not just aero).

Your idea would (to me) show a team looking at the short term view; also, I suspect that if the V10's start going too fast the FIA will do something about it, so no point getting Newey at work on something that will never be allowed to win.

Interesting thought 'though :wink:

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yeah i know what your saying however i don't think that STR are going to be a long term team anyway which is a shame because i think its a great idea shame we had to lose minardi but it should make for a more competitive championship and yeah i did wonder that about the V10 in all honesty im amazed they're allowed to run it.

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I think RBR are in a much better position to benefit most from Newey. They have the more mature structure and more developed car.

STR is, as I see it, a junior team for the Red Bull Racing. STR should be allowed to "buy" old chassis from RBR. Instead, STR should be training ground for all the young desingers, engineers, technicians, analysts and drivers. If they proove to be talented then they get promoted to RBR.

I think STR are not intended to win races but they can make their own decisions, design their own stuff and if they do manage to take on RBR on the track then all the better! Promote those responsible to RBR.

One thing is for sure, if Dietrich Mateschitz can afford to fund two teams then it's all good as it keeps the grid full and allows new talent to show their skills. :)

I suppose it is like bringing a bit of GP2 into F1.

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I just read about Newey defecting to RBR in Racecar Engineering.

Apparently, Ron Dennis wouldn't let Newey into his office once he found out. He didn't want him to get anymore valuable data from his computer, and had him escorted out by security. I would expect RD to be furious over this.
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ginsu wrote:I just read about Newey defecting to RBR in Racecar Engineering.

Apparently, Ron Dennis wouldn't let Newey into his office once he found out. He didn't want him to get anymore valuable data from his computer, and had him escorted out by security. I would expect RD to be furious over this.
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I am 100% sure that before the season begins, the V-10'2 will not enjoy any power advantage over the newer V-8's. Expect a rule adjustment.
Anyone familiar with Red Bull know they are very interested in driver development. The way I see it unfolding for '06 is the Red Bull team starting with emphasis on being 100% competitive, with hardened drivers and the best car available. Toro Rossi, meanwhile, will struggle on with a dated car and engine, while young drivers get first blood in F1. Later in the season expect Toro Rossi to get more competitive equipment, and develop as a team.
There are rules in place to ensure each team is a separate entity. That is one reason why Aguri has to use dated Arrows chassis this season, instead of a few BAR chassis. And I'm sure, that same rule prevents Toro Rossi from using Red Bull Chassis at this time.

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I don't know why STR don't use Cosworth V8 since they are rumored to be so good, its not like Red Bull can't afford them, and the FIA will ensure come what may that the V10's will be slower than the 8's
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I don't know why STR don't use Cosworth V8 since they are rumored to be so good, its not like Red Bull can't afford them, and the FIA will ensure come what may that the V10's will be slower than the 8's
All true, but if the RB2 turns out to be a dud...Red Bull cant afford to be beaten by their own B-Team.
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I have also wondered why they do not use the Cosworth V8. I think that engine will surprise a few people in the back of that Williams.
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