Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

[noname]

Renault in front of Ferrari and just behind Mercedes. well done Robert.

poor Petrov at least walks away with fastest lap of the race.

[Gonner]

Video of the Webber - Vettel incident replays : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMmTHb71 ... r_embedded[/youtube]

So everyone can be sure they see the same images...

[ISLAMATRON]

Lets ask the first question:

Was Webber WAY out of position in order to keep Vettel from passing? Was he even close to the racing line?

Webber took a defensive line BEFORE Vettel pulled along side so he can pace his car wherever he pleases... but he left Vettel a car width plus aninch so he did nothing wrong.

I have beenhighly critical of Webber hyper defensive driving in the past nutinthis instance it is clear he did nothing wrong.

[roost89]

The commentators didn't pick up on it but the TV just showed Lewis describing to Button how Vettel jerked right into Webber. Afterall he had one of the best views of it.

Don't tell the 'tin-foil hats' what happened it'll destroy their reality

[ISLAMATRON]

Button wasnt low on fuel.

Thats just Mclaren BS, they wanted a one-two finish and Button looked faster then Hamilton. So instead of doing a "Red Bull", they issued some phoney command for Button to toe line.... tell me Im wrong!!!

As usual you are wrong... Here on SPEEDTV they played the radio command to Hamilton to save fuel 10 laps before they gave the same command to Button, I'm sure they put the same amount of fuel in the cars.

[WhiteBlue]

That's on Vettel, not Webber. Stupid decision... super high risk & low reward, and that's what happens.

Totally disagree. It was a race as the McLaren drivers have demonstrated. Seb was right to give it a try. Weber was very unwise to leave very little room. Vettel was braking on the dirty side and needed more space because his brakes did not pull equally well on the dirty track. Classic racing accident.

[Tim.Wright]

Mark held straight, Vettel pulled across. Pretty clear cut in my eyes.

Forget the racing line, the were both off it, its a moot point.

Tim

[Holm86]

Vettel is clearly the idiot here .... webber holds his line and vettel pulls right into him.

[manchild]

WOW, he pulled a Schuey! Pure Jerez 1997!

What a moron!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgfuoSFerDU[/youtube]

[vall]

Button wasnt low on fuel.

Thats just Mclaren BS, they wanted a one-two finish and Button looked faster then Hamilton. So instead of doing a "Red Bull", they issued some phoney command for Button to toe line.... tell me Im wrong!!!

As usual you are wrong... Here on SPEEDTV they played the radio command to Hamilton to save fuel 10 laps before they gave the same command to Button, I'm sure they put the same amount of fuel in the cars.

good race. I expected more action on this track, though.

It was clear Button backed off for whatever reason. Seems it was a coded team order

[raymondu999]

To be honest (bearing in mind this is coming from a Vettel diehard fan) I feel that Mark Webber did give Seb room, but it was very marginal with maybe a couple of inches to spare.

I can't see Webber turning in, nor Vettel turning in from that shot on YouTube though. Could it be that they ended up in kind of intersecting rather than parallel lines and so nobody really "turned in" to the other?

[WhiteBlue]

WOW, he pulled a Schuey! Pure Jerez 1997!

Bullshit! Horner said it clearly. Mark squeezed. Vettel did not hit Mark by intention. The guys both did not give each other enough space, he said.

[gibells]

Button wasnt low on fuel.

Thats just Mclaren BS, they wanted a one-two finish and Button looked faster then Hamilton. So instead of doing a "Red Bull", they issued some phoney command for Button to toe line.... tell me Im wrong!!!

You're not, but McLaren got a onetwo. Fair play with 10 laps to go in my eyes.

[segedunum]

I think it was clear what was going to happen for a couple of laps. Webber was much slower then Vettel and you could see it coming.

However, now you now why I don't rate Webber at all. He knew Vettel was there because he looked in his mirror and should simply moved over and concentrated on getting track position for the next corner where he probably would have kept the position, but he didn't. He thinks he can just drive into people. You notice that's exactly what Lewis and Jensen were doing when they were racing. It was all about track position for the next corner.

That's what Christian Horner said anyway, and he's basically all but said it was Mark's fault.

[Shrek]

I'm almost wondering if Vettel was expecting Webber to get on the clean line because he did turn ever so slightly