Lewis Hamilton has won the Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul after closely following the Red Bulls until they knocked each other out. Jenson Button was second, while Mark Webber managed to finish third after an extra stop. Sebastian Vettel didn't make it to the finish.
I dont think u can tell much from that pic - both helmet and car angles are affected by the impact.marcush. wrote:myurr wrote:The damning image for me is this one:
There's plenty of room for Vettel on his left hand side, he's pushing Webber right. Webber gave him room, Vettel decided to try and take some more and got it wrong.
webber looking into his right side mirror ,Vettel into his left side mirror in this pic..
Ha! that is hilariousmarcush. wrote:myurr wrote:The damning image for me is this one:
There's plenty of room for Vettel on his left hand side, he's pushing Webber right. Webber gave him room, Vettel decided to try and take some more and got it wrong.
webber looking into his right side mirror ,Vettel into his left side mirror in this pic..
I think given Mclarens previous, you can deduce whatever you like.Paul Oz wrote:I think fundamentally.... its a good job Lewis got past Jenson when he did.... there's no way Lewis would have settled for that - and would very likely ended the same way as Red Bull. Jeez he was miffed enough even when he did win!
That made me grin
Vettel is a fool. All he thinks is about himself as being the WDC... I hope he goes to Ferrari next year.ringo wrote: Concerning Vettel, he is showing his true colours. He is egotistical spoilt brat.
All in all Horner is to blame. He flatters Vettel too much and makes him feel as if Webber is a push over, and Vettel is the heir to the redbull throne.
Serves Vettel right, webber has a 15 point gap to him, so smooth sailing for webber from now on!
Agreed - I saw that too..... fairly conclusive what his view was.r0adrunn3r wrote:ringo wrote: During the post race interview while Jenson was talking, Lewis asked Mark what happened. Mark demonstrated with his hands that Vettel drove into him.
I was wonderingwhat the hell you were talkingabout...Giblet wrote:I don't know why I thought Vettel was passing on the outside. I wanted correct myself before someone else did.
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Paddock speculation is stating that Webber was told to turn his engine down by Red Bull, while Vettel was instructed to turn his up. Hm.
quotes are from twitter...i dont like the sound of this at allF1Lite
Vettel became significantly faster in the 3 laps preceding the crash. Webber to journalists - "you guys need to do some digging."
One lap later Vettel takes the outside on turn 11 and has nearly passed Webber onto the approach of turn 12. Webber declined to move right to the normal racing line, while Vettel tried to and hit Webber with his right rear wheel. Vettel's race was immediately ended while Webber continued for one more lap before taking on a new front wing and rejoining the race in 3rd place, 6 seconds ahead of Schumacher.Giblet wrote:Right. He rightly squeezed, totally legit and within his range of options to win the race. He left Vettel room, and Vettel was on the outside. Vettel was trying a low percentage pass on his teammate.WhiteBlue wrote:Bullshit! Horner said it clearly. Mark squeezed. Vettel did not hit Mark by intention. The guys both did not give each other enough space, he said.
What happened in the moment of the pass does not cancel that Vettel put the two of them in that position. Him too close on the outside, and Webber being put in a position to defend his position.
Defending your position without having to move has nothing to do with sportsmanship.komninosm wrote:One lap later Vettel takes the outside on turn 11 and has nearly passed Webber onto the approach of turn 12. Webber declined to move right to the normal racing line, while Vettel tried to and hit Webber with his right rear wheel. Vettel's race was immediately ended while Webber continued for one more lap before taking on a new front wing and rejoining the race in 3rd place, 6 seconds ahead of Schumacher.Giblet wrote:Right. He rightly squeezed, totally legit and within his range of options to win the race. He left Vettel room, and Vettel was on the outside. Vettel was trying a low percentage pass on his teammate.WhiteBlue wrote:Bullshit! Horner said it clearly. Mark squeezed. Vettel did not hit Mark by intention. The guys both did not give each other enough space, he said.
What happened in the moment of the pass does not cancel that Vettel put the two of them in that position. Him too close on the outside, and Webber being put in a position to defend his position.
I think that's a fair assessment. It did seem pretty bad sportsmanship of Webber to go straight where he was "supposed" to go right to get into position for a left turn, more so to do it on his team mate.
They took the car and adapted it to Michael. They probably told Rosberg to 'shut up and drive'. I sure wouldn't wanna be in Nico's shoesringo wrote: Rosberg seems to be pretty quiet now.
