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All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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manchild wrote: Back than it was no more than 13.000 now it is over 20.000.
Talking of R.P.M. has anyone apart from Cosworth has hit 20,000 on the track yet?

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monkeyboy1976 wrote:
DaveKillens wrote:Gone are the days when the engineers ran a pipe to the most rearward location to get rid of the exhaust.
'scuse the silly question :roll: , but why don't they do that now? :? Is it better for aero or against the rules?
Dave is just pointing out how little consideration the exhausts were given in relation to the whole car in the past!

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Lap record: 1:09.005 (Kimi Raikkonen, 2005, McLaren)
Best unofficial V8 time to date: 1:10.890 (Fernando Alonso, Renault)
Wow. Alonso less than two seconds off the lap record in a v8. You just can't
stop F1 engineers. :0

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Well there are no surprises there, everyone predicted that the v8's would gradually be better than the v10s, the FIA can throw all the regulations at the engineers but the cars will not stop improving
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Zillionth reason for FIA masterminds to resign because of bad moves they made.

Soddy for the president!

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Soddy for the president!
HELL YES! Stoddy has some serious passion for the sport, look at how passionately he founght for the "rights" of the Minardi Team, must have made Mr. Gian Carlo Minardi very proud indeed that an "outsider" could show so much heart for the team...

...Image what stoddy could do for the sport with that amount of commitment & passion. Like I've sed b4, max has no passion for F1, Stoddy does.
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don't forger he is Aussie :P all aussies are passionate about sport 8)
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Spencifer-Murphy wrote: HELL YES! Stoddy has some serious passion for the sport, look at how passionately he founght for the "rights" of the Minardi Team, must have made Mr. Gian Carlo Minardi very proud indeed that an "outsider" could show so much heart for the team...
Knowing Giancarlo’s opinion about Paul Stoddart and the “clever” way he managed the team in the last few years, I take your words as a joke.

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LOL, Reca you make a very good piont. I didnt think about the whole selling-of-the-team thing!

I'll rephrse, if I was Giancarlo Minardi, I'd have been very proud of how Stoddy managed my team....right up until the piont he sold it!!!
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But Stoddy didn't just sell the team. He insisted that team must remain in Faenza and that was one of the things from conctract with Red Bull.

I'm sure that Stoddy didn't make any money out of such demand but more likely gone trough some trouble to achieve that.

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I think ure right, I like Stoddy, he seems like a good guy...after all, who was one of the first to congrateulate Fernando in Brazil when he clinched the championship? Stoddy himself.
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I’m under the impression that I didn’t express my opinion clearly enough. What I wanted to say is exactly the opposite of what it seems you understood... to sell the team and go out of ... was probably the only good thing that Stoddart did for Minardi since 2002.
I see that outside of Italy you got a different perception about what Paul Stoddart did for Minardi and actually also about him as a person.

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lol...ooops :oops: , my mistake. Sorry I didnt understand the piont you was trying to make.

I guess as an Italian i can imagine that you may not have liked Stoddy all that much. Out of interest, in Italy what exactly is the view taken apon Stoddy and his time at Minardi Reca?
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We are going VERY OT here and I don’t like too much to talk about these things, I almost regret to have entered this discussion, but given your comment I just couldn’t resist. ;-)
Obviously I’ll give you the explanation, but I would then prefer to not further comment after it.

When Stoddart arrived he made it look like it was starting a new life for Minardi, and that financial problems were going to be a memory of the past and nothing else. What it really happened is very different, since he became owner of the Minardi team he did a quantity of things, one worst than the other, more often than not trying to take advantage of the fact that F1 needed a 10th team hence assuming others had to bend over just for him.
Starting from the change from Michelin to Bridgestone pissing off both tyre manufacturers and threatening them (remember when Minardi tested with Avon slick tyres ?) to obtain a furniture at the conditions he wanted, then pissing off with a not very kind behaviour several sponsors that Giancarlo Minardi, although not owner of the team anymore, was working 24/7 to find, then pissing off all the members of the team that spent lot of time designing a couple of cars that were never built, since 2002 till start of 2005 they basically used always the same chassis. On the contrary he preferred to buy someone else cars first for his business of the two-seaters F1, then the A23 (hinting that Minardi guys they weren’t good enough to design a competitive car) that in spite of his hopes, resulted to be not better (or even worse) than an update of the previous year Minardi.
And that without talking about the political fights with FIA and basically everybody else or about the 2005 Australian Gp affair and a quantity of other things, like for example the... the... I don’t have a word to define them actually... let’s call them test drivers although Zlobin and Nissany shouldn’t even be defined drivers.
Giancarlo Minardi (and the poor Rumi, RIP) had for close to 20 years lot of financial troubles but always managed to take care of them with class and dignity, without pissing off other people and trying always to do the best for Minardi, sometimes even achieving reasonably good results, sometimes not, but, most important thing, allowing to start a F1 career for many young and promising drivers and for many young and promising engineers.
In few years Paul Stoddart managed to transform the Minardi team, that almost everybody in F1 and amongst the fans loved and respected, in an annoying thing everybody wanted to get rid of as soon as possible. The simple fact that he was still using Minardi name was an insult.

Ok now rant is over, sorry if it sounded too passionate... now let’s just discuss about more interesting things.

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Oh...I understand now. I guess yes, I can imagine all of that would be quite agrivating if you took that viewpiont. Some of your piont I disagree with, but firstly...thats the piont in a forum to disagree in a friendly way :wink: ...

...and secondly you're right we are going OT and you'd rather not discuss it any further, so i wont state my personal views to the contrary here.

Anyways, thanks for clearing that up. Its nice to get an insight into the views of others, it makes one understand more about others and their differing perceptions.

Oh, and dont worry...it wasnt too passionate. Nobody canh be too passionate about something they obviously have so many feelings about.
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