Good old days

[RH1300S]

I'm nostalgic today...

Forget the Senna debate - that's a quality line up of drivers

So, who fills their shoes on today's grid

Michael Schumacher, Juan Pablo Montoya (Mansell ), Kimi Raikkonnen, Fernando Alonso..........

I don't think we need nostalgia (maybe if you had asked that question a few years ago )

Yup, great drivers, great times - but we have a quality group today.

The biggest obvious difference - Manchild's pictured showed three World Champions all (and, one to be.......)

BTW - It's too easy to say Senna won because he was in the best car; even in that case he had a freakish ability to get just that bit extra out of it (sometimes more than a bit) and a terrifying anger to win.

[jgredline]

And than people say that I'm starting talk about Shuey for zillionth time?

All of the drivers have caused several accidents in their career, even the smoothest ones like Prost but comparing several incidents with what can already be found in F1 encyclopedias as "typical Schumacher move" is talking in the wind - History is written and what people did can't be erased not even for sake of cleaning dirt from 7 titles (actually trying to dig 7 trophies under the huge pile of dirt).

If Senna wasn’t scared from Prost, Piquet, Lauda, Mansell than saying that he was scared from Schuey is equal to saying that Prost, Piquet, Lauda, Mansell were woosies.

I really don’t understand why Schuey fans worldwide need to pick on Senna in order to justify Schuey’s on-track behavior? If they really believe that Schuey deserved all those titles than they should except that all unsporting moves he made during his career are his own moves, done by his free will without having anything to do with what Senna did.

Why am I replying? – Because for the sake of memory of late great driver whose name is being insulted for the purpose of glorifying dirtiest driver in history of F1.

Hate me if you like - I don’t care, just don't tell me that I started it again...

WELL SAID.

[manchild]

Hehe.. actually, on the moment when that pic was taken ('85 or '86) only Piquet had 2 titles won while Prost if the pic was taken in 1986 had just one which leaves 1 more title for Piquet, 2 for Prost, 3 for Senna an 1 for Mansell... ( a bit statistics )

I also think that Senna didn't show his talent in superios cars only. Remember 1984 and Toleman Hart, '85 and '86 with Lotus Renault, 1991 and 1992 with Mclaren Honda and 1993 with Mclaren Ford. That is more than plenty.

Dave is right with his point, what would happen in '80s if Ronnie and Gilles didn't die including other decades before and after when the best ones died without ever showing all they could have (Clark, Rindt...).

What if is the eternal unknown.

[Reca]

His engagement was a surprise, it caused a plebiscite of critics, maybe reasonable in that moment. I heard of Gilles from a friend living in Canada, from Chris Amon and Walter Wolf who hired him for a few CAN AM races. I saw then him on tv, racing at Silverstone on a McLaren. His origin was curious, icon of snowmobiles and winner of Atlantic. I decided to engage him, moved by the confidence that with an adequate preparation it’s possible, in presence of predisposition and natural talent, to ‘build’ a driver. Villeneuve with his temperament, won the crowds and soon became... Gilles !
Someone defined him ‘aviator’, some rated him as crazy, but with his generosity, with his audacity, with the ‘destructive’ ability he had for driving cars ill-treating driveshafts, gearboxes, clutches, brakes, he was teaching us what we had to do so a driver could defend himself in an unexpected situation, in a moment of necessity. He was champion of fighting spirit and gave us, added reputation to Ferrari. I loved him.

That's from Enzo Ferrari book “Piloti che gente”. (sorry for the far from perfect translation but I’ve only the Italian version of the book)

This one is in Maranello :
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[ranger]

RH1300S wrote:
Forget the Senna debate - that's a quality line up of drivers

So, who fills their shoes on today's grid

Michael Schumacher, Juan Pablo Montoya (Mansell ), Kimi Raikkonnen, Fernando Alonso..........

I don't think we need nostalgia (maybe if you had asked that question a few years ago )

Yup, great drivers, great times - but we have a quality group today.

The biggest obvious difference - Manchild's pictured showed three World Champions all (and, one to be.......)

BTW - It's too easy to say Senna won because he was in the best car; even in that case he had a freakish ability to get just that bit extra out of it (sometimes more than a bit) and a terrifying anger to win.



well wrote...mansell was fovourite to the 1987 title but bad lucked...injury in japan kept him out

1988: torrid year with Judd V8 engine...no chances to title
1989: new engine supplier:Renault...an average year........................

1992: ..........WORLD CHAMPION!!!!!!!