Renault R30

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747heavy wrote:not sure, but to me it looks like, that Sauber is blowing the flap/upper element, not the main plane ala Renault.

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Since Canada AFAIR

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Blooming 'eck! Corrected again!

But from memory, the originally trialled Sauber design DID blow the bottom element, so I would have been right had I posted my comment many months before Renault implemented theirs! DOH

Thanks for setting me straight though guys, I knew I could rely on you!
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forty-two wrote:Wow, lots of info there! Thanks for the concise reply ESP.

I didn't hear you get another name check in the FP sessions today though! Should I listen out for one tomorrow? :D
Answer, no; reason, ill be at work sadly.

Sauber are now blowing the main element, new to me ill say, as they were blowing the lower element early on this season. They must have used Albert3 to convert to the main plane.

One other thing to add is that ther eis one more blown wing and thats the Mercedes passive idea, that one blows the wing when the air speed reaches a certain level and then blows the wing on its own. It works, but is more flawed than the McLaren or Renault solutions. It dosnt let the air attach quick enough like the Renault idea but also is harder to blow like the McLaren idea. It dosnt cost as much as the Renault idea either. If it was on last years Brawn, it would have been a massive plus as the DDD would have had enough downforce at high speeds, but now it is a solution that was dated once it was concived. Mercedes should just go and do a Renault type solution.

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similar solution to Red Bull in venting the air from the F-duct if not used to blow the rear wing.
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Blowing the lower wing should blow the top one a small amount as well, no?
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Seems to be a sharp turn, moving the air 90 deg down!

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Front view - it is visible, that one side is slightly higher, than the other one.

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you speak of the splitter there? it definitely looks twisted underneath the car.. :wtf:

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marcush. wrote:you speak of the splitter there? it definitely looks twisted underneath the car.. :wtf:
I guess it's rather about the head protecting area behind the helmet.
The right side on the picture (the one with this new narrow opening) is a bit higher than a left side

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you can see that in a lot of pictures ...the headrest is considerably higher on the left side..

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marcush. wrote:
you can see that in a lot of pictures ...the headrest is considerably higher on the left side..
It's semi-often talked about by the BBC guys that Kubica rather oddly holds his head on the outside of the cockpit headrest when going around turns rather than pointing it into the apex, maybe it has something to do with that?

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"Make the suspension adjustable and they will adjust it wrong ......
look what they can do to a carburetor in just a few moments of stupidity with a screwdriver."
- Colin Chapman

“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” - Leonardo da Vinci