Renault R30

[Carlo's]

This photo would be more suitable to R30 thread.

As for blown diffusers - they will still have positive influence on the car and downforce despite single diffusers right? Will it have 'must-have' status next year?

[kwanchepan]

This photo would be more suitable to R30 thread.

Just to discuss the idea of blown diffuser. That isn't just about R30. Will it can be allowed in the next year's R31 or other cars?

[timbo]

Will it can be allowed in the next year's R31 or other cars?

Yes but without any holes in the diffuser.

[wrcsti]

Will it can be allowed in the next year's R31 or other cars?

Yes but without any holes in the diffuser.

im imagining them pointing exhaust between the beam wing and difusor. Also DDD is banned but the 150mm center rule on the difusor is not?

[wesley123]

it still is as holes where the DDD get fed from arent allowed anymore

[Blackout]

That ''opening'' in the diffuser isn't new nor directly related with the exhausts. Those opening were there long time before Valencia. They appeared in Bahrain or Australia.

Sepang:

[scarbs]

blackout,
Most teams have run that convex section pictured above, but the raised section kwanchepan pointed is new. In your picture its the section to the left of your highlighted box.

[Blackout]

New ? not really; that different raised section belongs to the modified diffuser appeared in Hungary. Or you mean sth else

[wrcsti]

it still is as holes where the DDD get fed from arent allowed anymore

i meant this 150mm loophole

[hecti]

it still is as holes where the DDD get fed from arent allowed anymore

i meant this 150mm loophole

I was wondering about this too, but technically it is a double deck because the little winglet on the bottom of the central section does block the view of the top part of the section, which is what defines a double diffuser.

[Intego]

i meant this 150mm loophole
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/full/ta_arti ... 22.jpg[img]

I was wondering about this too, but technically it is a double deck because the little winglet on the bottom of the central section does block the view of the top part of the section, which is what defines a double diffuser.

Not necessarily. I didn't have the chance to be a frog, but the last centimetres seem to give a view of the top part of the section. Furthermore I don't know if that is necessary. We don't know the wording of the 2011 regulations, but if the permitted specs are maintained and there's no hole in the floor (IIRC), then it must be legal?!

[hecti]

i meant this 150mm loophole
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/full/ta_arti ... 22.jpg[img]

I was wondering about this too, but technically it is a double deck because the little winglet on the bottom of the central section does block the view of the top part of the section, which is what defines a double diffuser.

Not necessarily. I didn't have the chance to be a frog, but the last centimetres seem to give a view of the top part of the section. Furthermore I don't know if that is necessary. We don't know the wording of the 2011 regulations, but if the permitted specs are maintained and there's no hole in the floor (IIRC), then it must be legal?!

Yea your right, i though it might just be that the drawing was incorrect but i took a look at an actual picture and its exactly the same as the drawing, so i guess it must be legal!!
you could also say its an integral part of the crash structure and with out it the driver will die... jokes... might last you a couple races while luca M takes you to court haha

[timbo]

The question is whether there's really a benefit in adding additional elements there.

[f1motta]

R30 is back as Pirelli test car http://www.f1talks.pl/2012/03/07/r30-no ... m-pirelli/

[Neno]

R30 is back as Pirelli test car http://www.f1talks.pl/2012/03/07/r30-no ... m-pirelli/

hell yeah =D> that car in Kubica's hand was magnificent fast on some tracks, i wonder who will be Pirelli's driver