Race Car changes

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Race Car changes

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I know the engine has to last two races, but I was reading on the Renault website, and they showed 5 different types( A-E) of R25 in use during the 2005 season. I know they make the Monocoque first and then add all the other bodywork components for the car. So I am wondering,

Do they change the (Front nose cone, Gearbox, Suspension, Rear wing turning vanes, bardge boards, steering rack) for each race?

Also with each evolution (R25 A to R25 B) do they make changes to monocoque for each construction to suit the changes for the races that the monocoque will race? Also do they try new techniques to make the monocoque more stiffer and lighter?
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Re: Race Car changes

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I think that everything except the chassis and engine is changed. Some parts can be used but all parts suffering huge loads or being exposed to heat are replaced with new ones.

Second part of your inquiry I can't really understand. Let me just say that only several chassis are made per season.

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If you see the technical analysis on F1 site, you'll notice that they constantly change body parts.

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hmm sorry about that manchild, hmm I do not know if this helps...

I was doing some research and I know that they had a special chassis for china and E was the last chassis to be used. I was thinking that running so many miles on monocoque that they will have to make new ones because it will start to lose its structual intergrity over the course of time??

I saw this on the website...
"The chassis that Fernando Alonso used to win the race and the 2005 Constructor championship was all opened, with the R25E, "
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Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
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I'm sorry that I post a question in reply rather than an answer,but I am not sure of the right place to do it.But I too have only a vague idea of the subject.Could anyone explain me the term 'chassis stiffness'.I have heard the term may times in conjunction with the keels.

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E is mark for specification of engine, not chassis. In China they used new engine spec. E - the RS25E.

RS stands for engine mark while R stands for chassis mark. Many sites make mistakes and mix RS25 with R25 and so on.

Chassis can be demaged even without having incidents but they are usualy not demaged by racing with no incidents. (this sounds like Murray Walker :wink: )
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A Formula One car is a delicate balance of synergistic forces. Get it right, and you have winner. Get it wrong, and it's back to the drawing board (remember the walrus nosed Williams?). It all starts at the initial design of the car, when all the components are carefully designed, each in a specific relationship to each other. That basic design is frozen at some point, and then major construction begins. A schedule has to be met. And the heart of the car is the chassis, everything relates to it. So the carbon fiber chassis is designed, and usually, no major changes to it occur during the season. Hopefully, and most of the time, just small adjustments are made to refine the new car. Ballast may be shifted, wing may be added or reduced to the front or rear, careful tweaking of the suspension.
And a carbon fiber chassis is a lot of work to manufacture. It's a complex three dimensional shape with very close tolerances. I don't know how many rejects happen when attempting to manufacture a carbon fiber chassis, but not all come out of the autoclave passing final inspection. As well, a newly designed chassis has to go through the FIA's rigorous crash testing. As far as I know, each team manufacture just a small number of race chassis, maybe only five or six per driver. Maybe even less.
Carbon fiber, unlike aluminum or most metals, doesn't fatigue and fail. So unless it's subjected to harsh envoronments or an impact, or rough handling, there's no reason why a chassis can't be used until it becomes obsolete.
Of course, all the other parts that are attached to the chassis may be easily changed at a moment's notice, even the driver. :roll:

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I think i'm dreaming...i wish i knew all this information.
Keep it up people. I'm learning tons : )