2011 F1 car concepts

[donskar]

What's the situation at Red Bull regarding running KERS in 2011? Has there been any suggestion that they will/won't run the system next year?

I've been doing research for a blog post, and, compared to other teams, Red Bull overwhelmingly depend on leading out of the first corner to win races: to cut a long story short, 87% of Red Bull victories come from leading out of the first corner, while the figure is 52% among other teams.
If they run without KERS next year, and competitors are able to get the jump into the first corner, history says they'll struggle to get the wins. A Red Bull has never won a race in which it had to make a competitive pass on track (I think I've got my facts right, but I'd be happy to be corrected on that).

While those are some telling statistics, we must also compensate for the fact that Red Bull have 15 pole positions this year. Point being, they would, statistically (since we're on the subject of stats) 15/19 times their win would be more likely to come from leading from the first corner, if everyone has the same good start. That's 79%. Against your 87%.

Good catch, BUT . . . What is the season-long, overall picture on those who led into the first turn? If the very large majority of races are won by the driver who leads into/out of Turn 1, then for an advertiser after the the masses (who only care about passing and especially racing at the front) the picture is rather bleak. IMHO entertaining the masses is more important to F1's long-term health than appearing to be "green." . I am at work, with very limited access (I suppose I can get F1technical because the "technical" fools the IT Gestapo.) Can anyone fill us in on the rest of the picture?

[bjpower]

has the loop hole for the fearri wheels been closed or will all the cars have the wheel covers?

[Mandrake]

What's the situation at Red Bull regarding running KERS in 2011? Has there been any suggestion that they will/won't run the system next year?

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Good catch, BUT . . . What is the season-long, overall picture on those who led into the first turn? If the very large majority of races are won by the driver who leads into/out of Turn 1, then for an advertiser after the the masses (who only care about passing and especially racing at the front) the picture is rather bleak.

In a normal Quali you do not get Pole Position for nothing....in recent years there was no "Qualifying only" car at the top (apart from the Williams in 09 for example), thus the polesitter was likely to be able to win the race as well. RedBull didn't win when Driver errors or technical errors happened....

In Germany they were only on Pole by the help of their Q3 mapping, thus not fast enough to win the race either.

In Hungary however, the above theory is true, there Vettel had to do his Drive-Through and couldn't pass Alonso despite being 1,5 secs a lap quicker..

[godlameroso]

The only races red bull won where the qualifying gap was less than 3 tenths was Abu dhabi and Monaco, for the rest they either werent fast enough or had problems

[Tamburello]

The only races red bull won where the qualifying gap was less than 3 tenths was Abu dhabi and Monaco, for the rest they either werent fast enough or had problems

At Monaco Webber's pole lap was seven tenths faster than Kubica in 2nd. The only races in which RB didn't win from the front of the grid due to non mechanical problems were the German GP and Belgium GP, both essentially due to bad starts. In Montreal they weren't fast enough and in Singapore Alonso qualified on pole and had good pace and was somewhat saved by the safety or something when Vettel looked like he was going to attack.

The rest of the time that RB didn't win was purely down to mechanical problems and/or the odd strategy blunder.

[raymondu999]

The only races red bull won where the qualifying gap was less than 3 tenths was Abu dhabi and Monaco, for the rest they either werent fast enough or had problems

At Monaco Webber's pole lap was seven tenths faster than Kubica in 2nd. The only races in which RB didn't win from the front of the grid due to non mechanical problems were the German GP and Belgium GP, both essentially due to bad starts. In Montreal they weren't fast enough and in Singapore Alonso qualified on pole and had good pace and was somewhat saved by the safety or something when Vettel looked like he was going to attack.

The rest of the time that RB didn't win was purely down to mechanical problems and/or the odd strategy blunder.

Huh? Take some math classes mate. 1:13.826 is 0.294 faster than 1:14.120

[myurr]

The only races red bull won where the qualifying gap was less than 3 tenths was Abu dhabi and Monaco, for the rest they either werent fast enough or had problems

At Monaco Webber's pole lap was seven tenths faster than Kubica in 2nd. The only races in which RB didn't win from the front of the grid due to non mechanical problems were the German GP and Belgium GP, both essentially due to bad starts. In Montreal they weren't fast enough and in Singapore Alonso qualified on pole and had good pace and was somewhat saved by the safety or something when Vettel looked like he was going to attack.

The rest of the time that RB didn't win was purely down to mechanical problems and/or the odd strategy blunder.

Not sure I'd classify Turkey as a mechanical problem... I'm sure a couple of others involve driver mistakes.

But the underlying point is correct, the Red Bull was by far the fastest car over the course of the season.

[dougskullery]

Good catch, BUT . . . What is the season-long, overall picture on those who led into the first turn? If the very large majority of races are won by the driver who leads into/out of Turn 1, then for an advertiser after the the masses (who only care about passing and especially racing at the front) the picture is rather bleak. IMHO entertaining the masses is more important to F1's long-term health than appearing to be "green." . I am at work, with very limited access (I suppose I can get F1technical because the "technical" fools the IT Gestapo.) Can anyone fill us in on the rest of the picture?

As I say, only Red Bull win such a high percentage of their races from first-corner leads. If you remove Red Bull wins from the equation, only 50% of races over the past two seasons have been won by the car leading at the first corner.

[godlameroso]

Back on topic who do you suppose will be the next team to reveal the release of their new car?

[ell66]

The only races red bull won where the qualifying gap was less than 3 tenths was Abu dhabi and Monaco, for the rest they either werent fast enough or had problems

At Monaco Webber's pole lap was seven tenths faster than Kubica in 2nd. The only races in which RB didn't win from the front of the grid due to non mechanical problems were the German GP and Belgium GP, both essentially due to bad starts. In Montreal they weren't fast enough and in Singapore Alonso qualified on pole and had good pace and was somewhat saved by the safety or something when Vettel looked like he was going to attack.

The rest of the time that RB didn't win was purely down to mechanical problems and/or the odd strategy blunder.

where the hell did you get 7 tenths from?
as for the race pace of the bulls, the mclarens were faster in turkey and belgium..as well as canada as you mentioned.
the ferrari's were very evenly matched with the bulls in bahrain and probably a little bit faster in germany.
be sure to get your facts right.

[Tamburello]

Not sure I'd classify Turkey as a mechanical problem...

Well I'd classify a car with a broken wing hanging of it as having mechanical trouble.

I'm sure a couple of others involve driver mistakes

Where? If you call bad starts driver errors then yes, but it seems like they were having mechanical issues there too.

[MugenHonda]

With the Double Diffuser banned from 2011 and the shark fin not allowered to touch the rear wing, how much would the teams loose in Downforce at the rear?

[raymondu999]

Curious the fin ban. Once f-ducts are banned, why should they still ban the fin connecting to the wing?

[Tamburello]

Curious the fin ban. Once f-ducts are banned, why should they still ban the fin connecting to the wing?

That is how they are banning the f-duct in a way, isn't it?

[gridwalker]

It is one of the ways.

They are also banning passive blown slots and specifying exactly which controls a driver can interact with in ways that change the aerodynamic effect of the car.

It appears to be a fairly comprehensive (and restrictive) package.