Do you want Refueling back?

[ringo]

Yep, that's why the poll results are basically 50/50

[Tamburello]

Yep, that's why the poll results are basically 50/50

Another factor that you have not mentioned so far is the clamour for low fuel, hell for leather qualifying that was going that was one major reason behind the rule changes regarding refueling.

The reason cars had differing weights at the start of races was because they finished qualifying as such. You can't have your cake and eat it too it in F1 these days, naturally.

[SiLo]

Hell for leather qualifying was boring this year. I preferred it when they had to qualify with race fuel onboard because instead of it always being the fastest car, sometimes it was the fastest driver.

[Tamburello]

Hell for leather qualifying was boring this year. I preferred it when they had to qualify with race fuel onboard because instead of it always being the fastest car, sometimes it was the fastest driver.

This doesn't make sense.

[Giblet]

When 3/4 of the field was withing a second of each other almost every single quali session, I would say the driver had the final say in how fast his car was.

[Tamburello]

When 3/4 of the field was withing a second of each other almost every single quali session, I would say the driver had the final say in how fast his car was.

you are putting 2 and 3 together and getting 6.

[SiLo]

Because sometimes the driver would choose how much fuel he would want, and sometimes it would pay off going for a slightly lighter fuel load, but they may not have the fastest car. As we saw this year, if the Red Bulls were in dirty air they were rather slow, so if people could of gotten infront by running a lower fuel load, we may have seen more racing.

[myurr]

Because sometimes the driver would choose how much fuel he would want, and sometimes it would pay off going for a slightly lighter fuel load, but they may not have the fastest car. As we saw this year, if the Red Bulls were in dirty air they were rather slow, so if people could of gotten infront by running a lower fuel load, we may have seen more racing.

And then the Red Bulls would then just stay out a couple of laps longer and pass the other cars in the pits. Wow... exciting...

[ringo]

At least it's better than watching 20 laps of bumper to bumper traffic.
The 2010 Abudhabi and Brazilian conga lines cannot be better than passing in the pits.

[SiLo]

Well they may not, like I said, the Red Bull's were useless behind other cars, so if they get stuck behind one, others can take advantage.

[byronbb]

No it was so ridiculously dangerous the last few years the FIA were just plain lucky no one died in the pit lane.

[scotty86]

At least it's better than watching 20 laps of bumper to bumper traffic.

I would debate that, because it has proven to have been just as predictable at times.

[Giblet]

When 3/4 of the field was withing a second of each other almost every single quali session, I would say the driver had the final say in how fast his car was.

you are putting 2 and 3 together and getting 6.

Not really. When there are two drivers in a team and one is quicker almost every race, it would be fair to say it comes down to the driver when the clock stops

[myurr]

At least it's better than watching 20 laps of bumper to bumper traffic.
The 2010 Abudhabi and Brazilian conga lines cannot be better than passing in the pits.

Actually not for me, it's just as predictable and boring. As I said right at the beginning the lack of refuelling isn't the problem in F1, and nor is it the solution. The problem is that it's too difficult to get past the car in front even when you have a large (for F1) advantage. Refuelling doesn't fix that, and in my view makes it worse as all the cars are running in a smaller operating window in terms of weight giving less scope for car balance issues. These should be more prevalent now that the adjustable front wing has been banned.

[komninosm]

Can someone remind me please why in previous years they stopped allowing the first 10 cars to refuel between qualifiers and race and why they started publishing weights?

My understanding was that qualifying on race fuel was designed to allow teams to try different strategies so that you could trade optimum first stopping time for a higher grid slot if you were fuelled light. In reality all the teams went for similar strategies as if you go too heavy you lost out too badly in track position, go too light and you simply get passed at the first stops. If you have low fuel qualifying and then let teams put any fuel load they like in the cars then you would end up with ever more conservative strategies. With it being so difficult to pass, being a tad slower due to fuel load isn't a problem if you can then put in a couple of quick laps after the car behind has had to pit.

They started publishing fuel weights to increase the openness of the sport. It didn't really matter to the teams as they would perform their own analysis anyway in order to work out what their competitors were doing, so always knew pretty much when everyone would pit.

Meh those reasons are so unsatisfactory and contrived. I'd rather they stuck to pure racing and allowed anything goes (light fuel load) qualifying and anything goes race days, no bans on refueling and no obligatory tire changes.