Mercedes GP 2011

[Ferraripilot]

60 rounds and Schumacher's fastest is 1.22:892, the quickest still Sergio Perez with an 1.21:761, less then three tenth above the time of Barichello on place 4, but he had to do eleven rounds more in comparison with Schumacher.

Are they testing now with the full upgrade ?

No. Wings are still to come

[segedunum]

To me Mercedes has not shown what is necessary in terms of creativity,desire and competence.I´m a bit speachless ,I have to confess.

Honestly, did anyone really expect anything different? It seems they simply cut the sidepods off that old Honda Mercedes and stuck them on their 'new' car.

Why they haven't just got the parts on the car as soon as possible I have no idea. Once you put a new front wing on your car everything aft of it changes, so they're not getting a 'baseline' of anything. It's total amateur hour.

[bot6]

I think it makes sense having a step by step approach, and evaluating what each change does to the car. Exhaust and sidepods yesterday and today, front wing tomorrow.

If you test everything all at once, it's hard to know which bit does what to the car.

[Ferraripilot]

To me Mercedes has not shown what is necessary in terms of creativity,desire and competence.I´m a bit speachless ,I have to confess.

Honestly, did anyone really expect anything different? It seems they simply cut the sidepods off that old Honda Mercedes and stuck them on their 'new' car.

Why they haven't just got the parts on the car as soon as possible I have no idea. Once you put a new front wing on your car everything aft of it changes, so they're not getting a 'baseline' of anything. It's total amateur hour.

Run by amateurs obviously I completely understand and can deduce your logic. Some will say they know what they're doing while others believe their current path to be asinine. We'll see I guess. Nico seems to like the changes.

The changes to date are impressive as far as I am concerned. They have a genuinely different and reportedly effective exhaust system, real turning vanes, 100% better sidepods than before as they are far more slim at the back, new barge boards, ploughs under the nose, and the front wing has yet to show itself. Has any other team added this much to their car?

[marcush.]

maybe I´m too concerned .I had hoped for something convincing for 2011 but I stil see so many rough edges and areas were they did not exploit the possibilities.To call them amateurs ...well they are not that slow ,are they?

[dren]

To me Mercedes has not shown what is necessary in terms of creativity,desire and competence.I´m a bit speachless ,I have to confess.

Honestly, did anyone really expect anything different? It seems they simply cut the sidepods off that old Honda Mercedes and stuck them on their 'new' car.

Why they haven't just got the parts on the car as soon as possible I have no idea. Once you put a new front wing on your car everything aft of it changes, so they're not getting a 'baseline' of anything. It's total amateur hour.

Nico stated the exhaust treatment has a lot of potential for performance. They are probably wanting to benchmark just this upgrade to make sure their calculations were on par. It most certainly is not total amateur hour. We're the amatuers.

[Ferraripilot]

maybe I´m too concerned .I had hoped for something convincing for 2011 but I stil see so many rough edges and areas were they did not exploit the possibilities.To call them amateurs ...well they are not that slow ,are they?

Their long runs look really good. If the front wing brings another .2-.3 I think they will be very competitive. They have yet to do any low fuel runs, but I suspect in the end the car has another 1.5 seconds in it for qualy spec. They definitely have a lot of upward mobility.

[segedunum]

It's funny how a lot of us keep turning out to be right......

There's really nothing on that car apart from a different exhaust position, and even that looks barely like what a lot of teams were doing last year. Is that "Very different" as Ross Brawn said it would be? Hardly.

[Ferraripilot]

It's funny how a lot of us keep turning out to be right......

There's really nothing on that car apart from a different exhaust position, and even that looks barely like what a lot of teams were doing last year. Is that "Very different" as Ross Brawn said it would be? Hardly.

Say what? They have changed their car more than anyone has thus far. Slimmer and redesigned sidepods, turning vanes, barge boards, ploughs under the nose, exhaust, and a front wing and possibly rear wing to come.

Name one other team to change their car this much. Please name another. I'm not trying to sound like some sort of fanboy, but the accustations that they have, "done little" and you and X are going to wave your, "I'm correct" flag is completely and utterly wrong.

[volarchico]

Some may argue with all the time this team had to work on this year's car, they shouldn't HAVE to change that much kit during testing. But it is what it is, and thankfully these additional pieces and parts are making a noticeable difference. Well on their way to "competitive" hopefully.

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

It's funny how a lot of us keep turning out to be right......

With new front and rear wings to come.

So how is this not a much changed car? Its not spectacular, granted. Nor is Ferrari, and Red Bull are hardly bending my interpretation of innovation.

[f1gang]

If we look at this time chart...this car is suited for MS, compare ROSBERG..DO YOU ALL AGREE??

http://f1tests.mine.nu/2011_1.php?rev=on

[Raptor22]

Stop tryin to please Seg.Evenif they turned up with a completely new car from front wing to tail ight he'll call it a just a scratch..

He reminds me of MonthyPython Quest for the Holy Grails "Black Knight"

"Come on fight me"

"But I've cut your arms off..."

black kinights Arthur on the bum....

Arthur cuts of Black Knights legs

Black knight throws himself on the floor. kicking "come fight me you coward....



<sigh>

[maestro272]

What a time!

1 Schumacher Mercedes 1m21.268s

[Nuclear]

What a time!

1 Schumacher Mercedes 1m21.268s

Fastest ever driven in Barcelona 2011 !!!!