HRT F111 Cosworth

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dan
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congrats to HRT they got the thing rolling! i think it looks pretty cool too

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mith
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I was believing they can manage to go below 107%, but if they are forced to use that old FW, I don't see them qualifying.

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Tim.Wright
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So they cannot even finish a car for friday testing but they expect everyone to believe they were only missing their dampers in Barcelona several weeks ago??

They have just moved from "hard working backmarkers" to "flat-out bulshitters" in my book. I'm sure they don't care where they sit in the book of Tim but anyway, it would be nice if they were out of F1 forever by Sunday afternoon.

Would be even better if their competition license is then given to someone reputable.

Tim
Not the engineer at Force India

bot6
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The bad news is at the moment, they only completed one car.

The good news is at the moment, at least one of the two cars runs. And they have all night to finish the other one.

I think as far as pure pace goes, Virgin has more to worry about than HRT. The Virgins are miles off the pace, with a car that seems totally outdated. HRT has a proven, modern drivetrain and hydraulics system and an updated front suspension, so at least mechanically they have a fairly up to date package. And they don't have to worry about KERS reliability since they won't run it.

Hopefully, tomorrow, both cars will be built and they will have FP3 to work out the kinks so they can do at least one flying lap each in the afternoon. And contrary to the top teams, they can use brand new soft tyres in Q1 since they don't have to worry about trying to get into Q3. So they still have a chance of qualifying for sunday, even with the old front wing.

Timewise they are in a similar place as last year. But they will have a much faster car this year. They might not be the best organised team in the paddock, but I like rooting for the underdog, and they seem to have put a lot of effort into this car.

They're trying the best they can, and I really hope they make it. F1 needs a cinderella story to make it seem a bit more humane.

Go HRT!

cbbcisace
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Both cars should be there as Hispania have been working on Narain car all day since FP2....

nacho
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I still can't understand why they can't use the new wing on the old nosecone.

I believe they have a chance to finish 11th like last year, Virgin seems like an outright disaster.

cbbcisace
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Do we now if the new nose cone/wing hasn't been fitted to the cars yet?

There hasn't been any official announcement about it

nacho
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The Melbourne nosecone is definitely not the one that was at the launch car. The pillars that the wing is attached are slanted on the new nosecone and the cameras are likein the Williams. Perhaps that was the one that went to crash testing and failed.

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ringo
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the nose cone they used is it the old one?

If it's not the old one then it's the one they'll use.
For Sure!!

bot6
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They will be using the old nosecone / wing combo. Cannot use the new one, as the new nosecone failed the FIA crash test.

They can't make a hybrid version of it since the wing pillars and mounts on the new wing are not compatible with the old nose.

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ringo
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Is the old one the one Luizzi used? I'm confused.
For Sure!!

bot6
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Old one from last year, yes

Guys, let's not forget that even if the cars qualify above the 107%, the stewards can allow them to start the GP anyways, from the pit lane.

chapmanlung
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so if the stewards let them race, then i really dont see the point of this 107% rule.
I want minardi back, just wondering, what was minardi's budget before? Becuase im sure they will have made HRT look like S@it!!!

donskar
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bot6 wrote:The bad news is at the moment, they only completed one car.

The good news is at the moment, at least one of the two cars runs. And they have all night to finish the other one.

I think as far as pure pace goes, Virgin has more to worry about than HRT. The Virgins are miles off the pace, with a car that seems totally outdated. HRT has a proven, modern drivetrain and hydraulics system and an updated front suspension, so at least mechanically they have a fairly up to date package. And they don't have to worry about KERS reliability since they won't run it.

Hopefully, tomorrow, both cars will be built and they will have FP3 to work out the kinks so they can do at least one flying lap each in the afternoon. And contrary to the top teams, they can use brand new soft tyres in Q1 since they don't have to worry about trying to get into Q3. So they still have a chance of qualifying for sunday, even with the old front wing.

Timewise they are in a similar place as last year. But they will have a much faster car this year. They might not be the best organised team in the paddock, but I like rooting for the underdog, and they seem to have put a lot of effort into this car.

They're trying the best they can, and I really hope they make it. F1 needs a cinderella story to make it seem a bit more humane.

Go HRT!
"Cinderella story"? You mean a fairy tale? Believable only by children?
Enzo Ferrari was a great man. But he was not a good man. -- Phil Hill

cbbcisace
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So the car didn't do too badly, it was a miracle lap from Liuzzi to be that close to D'Ambrosio with only 5 laps under his belt!