Monaco GP 2011 - Monte Carlo

[beelsebob]

For all who missed my FOM director bashing and wondered why they saw all the relevant action uninterupted, the Monaco Grand Prix has an exclusive deal with Bernie that it owns the right to produce the tv-broadcasting.

So in Canada it might gets confused again...

And here was me thinking that Monaco had by far the worst direction of any race yet shown!

[komninosm]

It would be interesting to compare Hamilton's move on Maldonado with his move on Schumacher.

My memory is that Schumacher gave him room to avoid the collision, while Maldonado didn't deviate from his usual line, hence the collision.

It is interesting that the wise old head managed to deal with the bullying move by Hamilton, but the inexperienced Maldonado failed to see how it would play out.

That's the thing about making aggressive moves, they rely on the other person to have the experience to recognise what you are doing.

and @ Beelsebob
Disagree guys! Why should Maldonado have deviated from the only racing line in that section when Hamilton was still behind him ?. The only way Maldanado could have avoided the accident was to lift and let Hamilton through. It was an over-optomistic move which caused Lewis to jump the curb and plow Pastor into the barrier tight on the left side of the track.
Pastor needed to asert himself in that situation as he is still trying to keep his seat. If he lifted it would have been a sign of weakness of will, and desire JMHO
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLtXdVbe ... ture=feedu[/youtube]

That video is conclusive, thanks. Maldonado actually cuts the corner defending his position. His line through the corner was not a typical line, watch the other cars previous.

It looks to me that Hamilton was 50% of a car length side by side with Maldo, for quite a long time too. Maldo gave no room, he was the one at fault by the rules.

BTW, why was the race not stopped when the 2 hours had passed? Did they just figure "OK 4 more laps to go lets finish it"? Isn't that against the rules?

[HampusA]

For all who missed my FOM director bashing and wondered why they saw all the relevant action uninterupted, the Monaco Grand Prix has an exclusive deal with Bernie that it owns the right to produce the tv-broadcasting.

So in Canada it might gets confused again...

And here was me thinking that Monaco had by far the worst direction of any race yet shown!

Spain was horrible aswell

[Paul]

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BTW, why was the race not stopped when the 2 hours had passed? Did they just figure "OK 4 more laps to go lets finish it"? Isn't that against the rules?

Red flag stops the countdown, same as in qualifying.

[komninosm]

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BTW, why was the race not stopped when the 2 hours had passed? Did they just figure "OK 4 more laps to go lets finish it"? Isn't that against the rules?

Red flag stops the countdown, same as in qualifying.

Hmm, the Greek TV crew seemed unaware of this.

[djos]

No.. Mark Webber is Australian.

Australians and Russians are different.

lol, how so ... Im an Aussie cant cat jump that high!

[andrew]

Regarding Hamilton's apology via Twitter:

Is an apology not an admission of guilt or is Hamilton not serious with his apology?

[komninosm]

Hamilton has the most fiercely loyal supporters.

From the data at hand you really can't draw that conclusion. All you can say with absolute certainty is that he has the fiercest haters.
/The Big Bang Theory (adjusted)
Here's some nude pics of Massa-Ham



OK metaphorically nude maybe, no? whatever ;p

EDIT: Seriously though, my analysis on Massa's thought processes is as follows.
First he saw Webber going wide and thought OK he'd follow the faster external line. Then he suddenly saw Ham getting alongside him and panicky turned in to block too late and also he let his speed be above normal which is why he caught up Webber. All 3 of these cars could go faster and where slowed by the car in front. Blame all around or nowhere really. Racing incident perhaps with blame on the lame Monaco track.

[komninosm]

Regarding Hamilton's apology via Twitter:

Is an apology not an admission of guilt or is Hamilton not serious with his apology?

It is an admission of guilt and he's probably not really serious. I think he's saying what he's told to say. It's Twitter, he doesn't even have to type it himself (or keep an honest face).

PS: He admits to guilt in calling them ridiculous drivers not for the incidents.

PPS: My issue with you was not your stance on Ham-Maldo today, but the discrepancy between your stance on Ham-Webber today (black and white) compared to your stance back then when it happened (racing incident).

[Pandamasque]

by someone called Bernard

[djos]

Lewis is almost level with Schumi, the same cant be said for his attempt on Maldonardo were he is barely halfway along and the turn in early stuf is BS, Maldo is clearly defending which he is entitled to do as he is the driver in front - it's up to Lewis to overtake Maldo safely not crash into him.

[Richard]

For all who missed my FOM director bashing and wondered why they saw all the relevant action uninterupted, the Monaco Grand Prix has an exclusive deal with Bernie that it owns the right to produce the tv-broadcasting.

So in Canada it might gets confused again...

It's the same for all circuits. Local director and camera crew, FOM broadcasting.

[MrBlacky]

by someone called Bernard

...BUT! The pics are from different angles! It's absolutely senseless to discuss further!!!!!!!

[beelsebob]

by someone called Bernard

...BUT! The pics are from different angles! It's absolutely senseless to discuss further!!!!!!!

Heh, hamilton actually came from further back against Schumacher – so much for being a last minute dive on maldonado.

[Richard]

The onboard shots are more revealing. Schumacher gave Hamilton a lot more room Maldanado. Having made the move stick for Schumacher you can see why Hamilton tried it again and expected Maldonado to respond in the same way. After all if you can pass Shchumacher in Monaco, a rookie should be easy?