Can Alonso do Schumi?

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Can Alonso do Schumi?

Yes
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27%
No
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55%
Too early to judge
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Total votes: 22

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wrk
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going back over the last 56 years, all of the multiple winners of WDC have all won their titles within a 10 year period.

I think his time is up or can he go against the trend.......
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Tom
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He won't get another.

Its Alonso and Kimis turn, then Roseburg.
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RacingManiac
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manchild wrote:NO

Alonso will do things by the book with respect of rivals, technical and sporting regulations so he'll never "achieve" what Schuey has.
old :roll:

Anyhow, there were many, many, many good drivers and Champions in those 56 years when Fangio held 5 titles, many of them are probably just as good as either MS or Alonso, but not many of them became a multiple WDC. Like many said, you need to be good, and everything else still have to be right to achieve that kind of success. MS was very lucky in that respect. Mind you the driver still needs to be able to deliver the goods at the end...

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RacingManiac wrote:Anyhow, there were many, many, many good drivers and Champions in those 56 years when Fangio held 5 titles, many of them are probably just as good as either MS or Alonso, but not many of them became a multiple WDC
And let's not forget that until the 70's, given the risk they faced at the time, a LOT of F1 drivers died racing or retired by the time they married and got children... it was not light-heartedly that you would go for a 15-year F1 career. While they were alive, they knew they were also being terribly lucky, so they started thinking about retirement.
Nowadays, no driver just winning the WC would retire like did Stewart.

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Scuderia_Russ
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manchild wrote:NO

Alonso will do things by the book with respect of rivals, technical and sporting regulations so he'll never "achieve" what Schuey has.
:lol:

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Tom
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Michael is no better than many drivers. He just drove in a period where no one was better than him! (Also in terms of reliability). Until now.

There are many drivers who can keep MS honest now. Even the STR were overtaking him at Melbourne.
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johny
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very good definition Tom, we can't start comparing all WDC to see who is the best, probably we'll choose listening to our heart. Also in F1 the driver isn't everything, you need te have talent and a good car so there comes a little of luck or just been on the right place at the right moment. I could remember Damon as a WDC but obviously michael,senna, prost they're on another galaxy

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Scuderia_Russ
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Tom wrote:Michael is no better than many drivers.
I was waiting for a punchline here Tom...

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Tom
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I thought that would be too easy.

You all know what I'm thinking.
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M.Schumacher is in a different league...enough said? I think so




But then again I would say that because I'm a M.Schumacher fan. So i'm probably not the best person to ask

DaveKillens
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Like I sadi, it's unfair to compare. For ten years Schumacher enjoyed what no other driver has had, or ever will. He had the team with the largest budget dedicating everything just to one man. And the tire supplier did the same, whatever Bridgestone supplied was for Michael, and everyone else had to make do with that compound. And Shu does deserve the accolades, he did deliver in five of those ten years. But no one ever has, or ever will again have such resources purely for him, on such a long time period.
If you compare where they were at similar ages, I have to give a slight margin to Alonso. He's lightning quick when needed, but displays a maturity that some drivers never reach. His discipline and coolness under pressure is already there, something Shu lacks. There are many instances when Shu has choked and made mistakes when under pressure. I an't think of a single category where Alonso cannt equal Michael Schumacher. be it qualifying, or tactics, or maintaining consistent focus.

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Ciro Pabón
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Principessa says (and she is right) that you should not compare drivers (except to compare their virtues, I guess). But this is not the question (or questions). My answers:

Can Alonso do Schumi? This year, definitely, yes, he can. And with passion, if not with love... :wink:

Can Alonso beat Schumi records?

It is going to be difficult, because there is a consensus to have a more competitive series, like in the past.

There are, also, records more difficult than others: most crashes on the last lap of the championship is going to be a though one, as Manchild pointed out (didn't he? :D)
Ciro

Mikey_s
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Dave,

I completely understand your point, but ask yourself why Ferrari were completely behind MS - he is a great champ, no doubt about that (except perhaps MC might not agree :lol: ), but he is also a great man manager - he always was quick to thank the team when he won, and I believe he drew the Scuderia together (of course it was a bit easier with the dream team of Brawn, Byrne and Todt).

I must confess that I am starting to have some respect for Alonso - I have no doubt that last year was not a fluke and I think he will win another championship, but I believe he managed to peak at the right time just as Renault got their act together - whereas Michael has brought an underdog team to the top of the wave (twice!!) and then rode the wave.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Alonso at McLaren. He is unquestionably a great driver, but his 'loyalty' to the team doesn't seem to be there and I am anxious to see how he will integrate (because his manager will be working for the competition!).
Mike

manchild
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great driver = great driving technique + great sportsman

Schuey has got all of the first and nothing of the second

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the question is

can alsono do a MS


of course he CAN but it is in the future there fore its speculation

when i saw MS qualiy 7th at spa on his debut i knew he might be summit special but could never have predicted his career

yes alsono most certainly can, the real question is WILL he. and for that we will all watch more f1 to find out