HHO generators

[xxChrisxx]

Have you acutally read anything that has been written? Or do you just not inderstand it?

You are obviously taken in by this even though basic physics tells you it wont work. You are saying nonsense, when it's very simple to check your facts.

I don't mind spending my time trying to explain something to someone who wants to know more about it. If you just want comfirmation for how super awesome and not a con a jar of water with some electrodes is try a perpetual motion forum.

[tathan]

Sorry about the 15000 degrees, I pushed the wrong button on my calculator.

Ah, that'll be the button marked "BULLSHIT"

My Casio doesn't have that one sadly.

I am truly sorry sir.
I am trying to get information about an alternate fuel.
I read one of the links and it said 500 degrees centigrade.
I multiplied 500 times 32 degrees farenhiet and said 15000.
Are you absolutely sure that you are in the correct forum?
Maybe you can add something constructive too this thread.
Please, by all means, enlighten us sir and please be the gentleman that we all know that you are capable of. =D>

I think it's you that's in the wrong forum chum. You asked if such an amazing device was possible and if anyone had heard of it, then followed up with where we could buy one in your next post

Obvious sales pitch is obvious.

You can't get more energy out than you put in - everyone's told you this.

[Scuderia Nuvolari]

I am not a shill, I asked questions, if you have something constructive to say, or if you can answer, please, I will listen.

[Richard]

The only thing that a higher octane rating does is allow higher compression ratios without detonation, so unless you are swappuing out your rods to allow higher compression ratios, it's a total waste of time.

If your car has a knock sensor and can combust at max brke torque on 91 octane, putting in a higher grade is pointless.

So is it useless to put 99 RON in a road car rather than the standard 95?

I thought modern cars with variable timed ignition and knock sensors could adjust to the higher grade?

[autogyro]

The only thing that a higher octane rating does is allow higher compression ratios without detonation, so unless you are swappuing out your rods to allow higher compression ratios, it's a total waste of time.

If your car has a knock sensor and can combust at max brke torque on 91 octane, putting in a higher grade is pointless.

So is it useless to put 99 RON in a road car rather than the standard 95?

I thought modern cars with variable timed ignition and knock sensors could adjust to the higher grade?

It can certainly advance the ignition timing, it will not increase the compression though, so the benefits will not be great.

[xxChrisxx]

The only thing that a higher octane rating does is allow higher compression ratios without detonation, so unless you are swappuing out your rods to allow higher compression ratios, it's a total waste of time.

If your car has a knock sensor and can combust at max brke torque on 91 octane, putting in a higher grade is pointless.

So is it useless to put 99 RON in a road car rather than the standard 95?

I thought modern cars with variable timed ignition and knock sensors could adjust to the higher grade?

It depends on the car. If you see I put the caveat that if it can run at max brake torque on standard octance fuel, putting in higher octane is a waste of money.

eg. If you stick premium in a Renault Clio, you are pissing money down the drain. If you stick it in an Impreza, you'll see some decent tangible benefits.

[Scuderia Nuvolari]

Is it possible for hydrogen to be extracted from water using zinc or a similar element at high temperature?

[tathan]

So is it useless to put 99 RON in a road car rather than the standard 95?

I thought modern cars with variable timed ignition and knock sensors could adjust to the higher grade?

They have knock sensors that can tell the ECU to pull timing, but the ECU is not self-mapping (quite yet), so although it can pull timing if you have bad fuel or whatever it can't push more timing than it is mapped for. High octane fuels have a slower flame speed too, and combined with the fact that many (e.g. Tesco) are boosted with alcohol which has a lower calorific value than petrol may actually result in worse peformance.

As mentioned cars like Imprezas will benefit from it as they're mapped for it, especially Jap import ones where regular petrol over there is 99, but putting it in a Fiesta? You won't see anything other than a lighter wallet.

[tok-tokkie]

More energy out than in. If you believe that then, no doubt, you also believe in the tooth fairy.