If you were Mosley?

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Venom
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If you were Mosley?

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What rules would make F1 more interesting?

Engine: v8/v10
Tyres: slicks/grooved
Tyre changes during GP: allow/disallow
Fuel usage: limited/unlimited
Traction Control: on/off
Launch Control: on/off
Team orders: allow/disallow

Anything else you may want to add. Wings? Pitbabes (causing dirstruction) :p
The trouble with the rat-race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.

kilcoo316
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I would:

- Allow any engine capacity
- Slick tyres, with the rear having twice or 3 times the contact patch of the front.
- Yes for tyre changes
- No for refuelling
- No for traction control (enforced through standard ECU)
- No for launch control (again, standard ECU)
- Allow team orders.

I would also ban the diffuser totally.


EDIT: Just realised, I wrote capacity instead of configuration! :oops: :oops:
Last edited by kilcoo316 on 03 May 2006, 16:05, edited 1 time in total.

tpe
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The engine capacity is not important, but you have to somehow control it. What I would like to have is free engine geometry, number of cylinders, cylinder's shape, number of valves, type of fuel (diesel, benzine, ethanol etc),.

I would like to have unlimited fuel but no refuelling.

For the other aspects kilcoo316 wrote, aI agree (especially for the tyres).

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NickT
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I would:

- Stick to this years V8, on grounds of cost and because they don't have the torque to cover up driver mistakes
- Slick tyres
- Yes to tyre changes but with a limit on the total number of tyres
- Yes to refuelling but with limited fuel for the race.
- No traction control (standard ECU)
- No launch control (standard ECU)
- Yes to team orders but with open radio channels
- Yes to a standard but limited ground effect undertray with small standard front and rear wings to adjust aero balance, on the grounds that downforce could be limited as required by FIA but the cars could still follow each other through the corners.
- No high, medium or low downforce setups, you can adjust your standard wings, ride height and pitch and that is it.
- No to barge boards, winglets, end plates and any other fancy aero add ons
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kilcoo316
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tpe wrote:The engine capacity is not important, but you have to somehow control it. What I would like to have is free engine geometry, number of cylinders, cylinder's shape, number of valves, type of fuel (diesel, benzine, ethanol etc),.
Whoops :oops: :oops:

Thats what I meant to write... thinking of something else and writing at the one time always ends in disaster :lol:

manchild
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1982 technical regulations in compliance with 2006 safety regualtions. Simple as that.

JimmyK
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1982 technical regulations
errr... could you refresh my memory? :oops:

EDIT:

Since I'm here, I might as well say:

Slick tyres with proportionally wider rears
engines with up to 1500 bhp
ground effect + fans on the back of the cars
sliding skirts
any technology allowed
all aerodynamics permitted as long as it remains within certain dimensions and is open-wheeled.
pit stops allowing any changes to the car
throw some overtaking in as well :wink:

lol, a good way to massacre the drivers I think - to be realistic, I haven't decided yet

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vyselegend
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I think a ban of traction contol would be the most significant change if you want to see who are the real drivers. (maybe with the exeption of rain, because no TC at all under rain would lead to either very slow or very dangerous races).

kilcoo316
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vyselegend wrote:(maybe with the exeption of rain, because no TC at all under rain would lead to either very slow or very dangerous races).

Why?


They did race in the rain between 1994 and 2001 you know - and yes, it did help sort the men from the boys :)

manchild
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JimmyK wrote:errr... could you refresh my memory? :oops:
What you wrote after that is more-less what I'm suggesting :wink:

zac510
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Do you guys think that if they banned traction control the cars would suddenly start sliding all over the place?

kilcoo316
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zac510 wrote:Do you guys think that if they banned traction control the cars would suddenly start sliding all over the place?

No, but if we make the rear tyres so much bigger than the front, they will have to powerslide their way through a corner as there will be too much understeer to do it 'conventionally' :D

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zac510 wrote:Do you guys think that if they banned traction control the cars would suddenly start sliding all over the place?
No, that's exageration, but I assume TC would not have been developped that much if it hadn't a strong influence on driveability.If the data provided on screen by TV during GPs is accurate, it looks like TC is enabled quite often. Seems obvious to me that the re-acceleration exiting turn 4 of nurburgring needs high control of rear wheels spinning for example, so what I aprehend is to see conservative driving under rain, with no one trying anything to overtake.
The idea of sorting out real drivers from rookies is sedducing me, but if it leads to have a yellow flag every two laps because Ide has spun, thanks but no thanks.

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Tom
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V10
slicks
allow
limited
off
on
disallow
Murphy's 9th Law of Technology:
Tell a man there are 300 million stars in the universe and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint on it and he'll have to touch to be sure.

zac510
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Yeah I agree with you two. It's not great for the racing, but it's not like chassis dynamics haven't changed in the last 5, 10, 20 years either.

And c'mon, if I were really Max Mosley the first thing I'd do would be to go out the front of manchild's house and wave a Ferrari flag around :D :D