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j4kwan
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K...I'm not sayin Ide belongs in F1, but if his Superlicense is withdrawn on the primary basis of his crash with Albers, then I'd have to say the likes of um...oh...Ralf Schumacher has to go with him!!!

The Super Aguris aren't fast. Put Alonso in it, and it won't get that much faster ; yes I know he'll be faster than the Sato and Ide, but not super fast. So Ide's first major incident in a race (not counting his runoffs in practice and quali - he didn't hit anyone in those times) he gets tossed out?!?!!

All I'm saying is we need consistency. There are so many more worse scenarios in the past. Example...Alonso break testing Coulthard at the A1. Ralf early breaking in Melbourne causing Villeneuve to fly over and kill a Marshall. MC purposely running Villeneuve off the road to win a championship. Yet, none of those incidents caused a suspension let alone revoking of any license.

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m3_lover
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The killing of the marshall was a complete accident, there was no way that anybody could have saw it. I think he got his license revoked because he was always running wide in practice and qualifying. Also that his race pace was way off Sato's, I believe it was more of a team decision. The team decided first to replace him and then let the FIA to take his license away, it is the team's decision that this happen, I dont see SA fighting this decision.
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Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
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manchild
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Indeed, Ide didn't do anything exceptionally bad. Although there are rumours from Japan that SA sponsors demand that Ide is returned to the team or they'll withdraw as sponsors. That would be fun to watch! :wink:
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Tom
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...Alonso break testing Coulthard at the A1. Ralf early breaking in Melbourne causing Villeneuve to fly over and kill a Marshall. MC purposely running Villeneuve off the road to win a championship. Yet, none of those incidents caused a suspension let alone revoking of any license.
Not sure what happened here.
MS got all his championship points revoked for trying to knocking Villenurve off track and with Ralf it was a simple first lap incident. Nothing could have been done to prevent it by braking later. (and if I'm going to be really fussy it was Nurburgring for DC and Alonso I think) :wink:
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vyselegend
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It's abnormal to remove a driver's super licence just because of an isolated accident. The word accident itself imply it's not something that is representative of one's behavior.
Probably the Albers crash wasn't the sole reason. It's true he was running wide quite often during a week end, but one thing that may have been determinent is that drivers complained his lines were strange. I think so because running wide ,ie having trouble to deal with understeer (or sometimes oversteer like in Imola's alta chicane) is a normal thing for a rookie driver who's still on the road to get used to the car's behavior.

But taking the wrong lines is a proof you don't know the basis of formula one racing, thus discredit your license.
That is strange because Yuji Ide isn't a guy out from nowhere, he's been a racer in F3 I think (not sure) and he drove reasonably powerfull turism cars as well, so he can't be bad to the point of not knowing the line to enter a corner and to exit, and on wich side of the road you're supposed to be now and then. All that to say I think he wasn't driving on his real level, because of several reasons:

1.The car was too "young", quite bad to drive and it's already difficult enough to learn to drive a F1 car, you don't need it to be undriveable!
2. He lacked experience not only for pure driving, but also to deal with the kind of pressure you have in F1, and beeing compared with Sato (who is not a very good racer, but yet an experimented one) didn't help.
3.As someone else pointed out in another thread, he knew he hadn't been choosen for his abilities, but for the sole purpose of being japanese and having a sponsor, and it probably sucked away all his motivation to improve.
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jaslfc
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they should recruit tora takagi as a short term japanese replacement if the sponsors insist on a japanese driver
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ketanpaul
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I dont think they withdrew his license solely on the basis of his albers incident. I think they kinda gave him the ultimatum to drive responsibly before the San Marino GP and when he crashed, they just couldnt take it any more
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Tom
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Definetly bring back 'the tiger'

I always got the impression he was a very Sato type character (Kamakazie) who would rather drive into the back of someone then overtake them.

The only real incident I can remember though was Monza '99.

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m3_lover
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looks like Montangy is going to be replaced

http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/a ... /view.html
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.
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Tom
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I hope he is not going to be as bad as I think he is.

It would be very unfair on both him and montagny if he were thrown into the seat just because of his natonality.
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