Gresini Racing's Marco Simoncelli has unfortunately passed away today after succumbing to injuries sustained during a freak accident during the second lap of the Malaysian GP at Sepang. The 24 year old Italian rider was battling for fourth when he went wide, and while rejoining he slid into the path of Tech 3's Colin Edwards and Ducati's Valentino Rossi.
+1Fil wrote:marktest, you've clearly never ridden a motorbike, or more importantly have never actually crashed one, so do not talk about what a rider did or didn't do.
Marco was hanging on trying to stop the bike from falling & sliding away. It was his fighting, never-give up, spirit that created the situation of the bike gripping the road again and violently veering inwards from it's initial slide.
By the time the vision showed him cut back on-screen, he was only a passenger, no longer in control. Bikes don't usually grip back so violently after losing the front, this was an incredibly unfortunate series of events.
Why would you even mention his passing struggles, when that is completely irrelevant to the situation?
And yes Marco crashed a lot in his first two seasons in MotoGP, but comparing a newcomer to a veteran is unfair.
Our current MotoGP double-world champion also had a reputation in his early seasons for crashing all the time. Yet Stoner is now known as a very reliable rider.
The quickest riders are the ones who find & push the limit too far, and then learn to scale it back a touch. Unfortunately Marco didn't survive this stage of his career.
It seems you're trying to find reasons to dislike him, when you possess no relevant knowledge to understand motorbike racing, or the man himself. You do not belong in this thread.
Marshalls are amateurs - guys and girls who do it for the love of it and do it for free generally. Without them there is no racing. Lighten up on them - the problem here is that they're having to carry him to the ambulance. That's a circuit/MotoGP problem, not a marshalling problem.ecapox wrote:Oh wow. At the very least every one of those marshalls should be fired and banned from ever marshalling a race in the future (if that's possible). At most, the track should be closed until this kind of obstacle (no access to track for ambulance) is addressed.
I have no doubt that the marshalls were doing their best to be qucik and get him in the abulance, but if you are quick and you drop him, it is A LOT worse than being slow.
Paolo Simoncelli wrote:I was there at 10 meters from Marco. He was already dead, it didn’t change a anything,” he told reporters. “I reached for the stretcher, I took his hand, I called him, but he was already gone, there was nothing to do. Marco was dead on the spot. I want to thank the Malaysian authorities, the Italian ambassador and the circuit personnel that never left us alone for a moment. They’ve been exceptional. In Rome today, everyone was there. From the authorities to hundreds of people who stopped working to applaud Marco. If I say I am happy it would be bullshit …. but all this deep affection is a beautiful thing. ”
Even though it wouldn't have made a difference whether they dropped him or not, as his Father so bravely confirmed in a statement to the worldwide racing community, it doesn't excuse those marshals. That's not the first rider to be dropped while one a backboard. Shoya Tomizawa was in an accident that ended up being fatal and the marshals dropped him as well. Regardless of whether or not MotoGP/the circuit has a medical car deficiency they should not have been handling a man that just got ran over on track and his helmet knocked off. Amateur or not, only a mentally handicapped person would think that was a good idea. Education/lack of common sense is their problem, not their experience level.Just_a_fan wrote: Marshalls are amateurs - guys and girls who do it for the love of it and do it for free generally. Without them there is no racing. Lighten up on them - the problem here is that they're having to carry him to the ambulance. That's a circuit/MotoGP problem, not a marshalling problem.
And dropping him won't have made any difference, sadly
-9999999999999999999999999999999!marktest wrote:Did everyone see the crash where was marco going? when watching it I felt like saying your going the wrong way.
Did you see how much lean marco put on that turn. he was hanging off the right side but he was already coming on to the straight.
it made no sense unless he wanted to drive in the way of the proper racing line.
his line was heading straight for the grass and then the wall at the exit of a corner.
unfortunatly this accident was 100% marcos fault and its true he could have taken out colin edwards or rossi.
and to be honest i think the riders will be better off with out someone that dangerous and sketchy on the track.
the differnce between rossi and marco is rossi can make the crazy passes safe because he is a master at it
marco was just to dangerous and he paid for it. At least he didn't take others with him
What an great way to introduce yourself on a forum!marktest wrote:Did everyone see the crash where was marco going? when watching it I felt like saying your going the wrong way.
Did you see how much lean marco put on that turn. he was hanging off the right side but he was already coming on to the straight.
it made no sense unless he wanted to drive in the way of the proper racing line.
his line was heading straight for the grass and then the wall at the exit of a corner.
unfortunatly this accident was 100% marcos fault and its true he could have taken out colin edwards or rossi.
and to be honest i think the riders will be better off with out someone that dangerous and sketchy on the track.
the differnce between rossi and marco is rossi can make the crazy passes safe because he is a master at it
marco was just to dangerous and he paid for it. At least he didn't take others with him
