If you were Mosley?

johny · Post 12 May 2006, 17:58

each number of cylinders have pros and cons, so you could desing your engine your way

Jason · Post 12 May 2006, 18:01

I think you remind me of something, the rev-limited V10 powering the STR01.

johny · Post 12 May 2006, 18:02

don't forget that the STR V10 has 3L capacity so you couldn't compare it with a 2.4L V8, it's obvious that STR engine would have better torque

Jason · Post 12 May 2006, 18:05

johny wrote:don't forget that the STR V10 has 3L capacity so you couldn't compare it with a 2.4L V8, it's obvious that STR engine would have better torque

I've heard that in Malaysia Martin said it gives the car straight line speed advantage.(not much of course)

RH1300S · Post 12 May 2006, 18:11

Jason wrote:
RH1300S wrote:4 stroke N/A engines - any capacity & number of cylinders
You have to control the amount of cylinders so no team getting the advantage of extra HP's(or whatever). Capacity is not imortant but the amount of cylinders must be controled to ensure fair racing.

Capacity & cylinders are important............think before opening mouth

Which might make more power.....a 16 cylinder 50cc or a single cylinder 2000cc??

Getting an advantage is what racing is all about.

My idea is simple - let the fuel used be the engine limit. Sure, you might have a 2000bhp engine, but carries a ton of fuel to finish a race and is slow around corners and kills it's tyres.

Engineers will find a engine formula that gets the most race pace out of a given amount of fuel. It might be a low capacity engine that carries a very light fuel load, might be something a bit more powerfull which needs a fair bit of weight on it at the beginning of a race and might need to run harder tyres to last the distance.

It's not a cost saving idea as more teams might end up needing bespoke tyres; but might leave room for a "light-bulb" breakthrough from a smaller team.

West · Post 13 May 2006, 01:35

If I were Mosley I would drive into the harbor of Monaco for the sake of the sport

Jason · Post 13 May 2006, 01:46

I kind of like Tom's idea to ban tobaco advertising. Aslo I would revise things a bit, no traction control and launch control. Certainly would make racing more difficult.

JimmyK · Post 13 May 2006, 01:51

I've heard that in Malaysia Martin said it gives the car straight line speed advantage.(not much of course)

I dunno, they probably took into account the top speed when they were working out the appropriate restrictions etc.
However, there would be much higher torque, cos of the increased engine capacity, certainly up to its' 16,000 rpm rev limiter, it would be able to power out of corners in a way that the V8s cannot

You have to control the amount of cylinders so no team getting the advantage of extra HP's(or whatever). Capacity is not imortant but the amount of cylinders must be controled to ensure fair racing.

If anything, I would say it's the other way 'round.
You can have any number of cylinders, but the capacity itself makes the difference, as the bigger it is, the more room there is for combustion.
To have fewer cylinders, they would have to be bigger, which leads to bigger vibrations, to have more cylinders could be more complex and possibly less effecient.

and now you know

manchild · Post 13 May 2006, 04:28

West wrote:If I were Mosley I would drive into the harbor of Monaco for the sake of the sport

That idea crossed my mind but than he'd polute Mediteranian sea

Jason · Post 13 May 2006, 05:21

No manchild, he'll get rammed over by millions of boats.

Jason · Post 21 May 2006, 12:21

I say limiting tyres can be nice.

-12 sets avaible for a team a weekend
-budget limited at $450mil.
-V6T engine
-1500BHP
-13500rpm
-slicks
-no team orders
-active suspension
-yes for TC(only in wet conditions)
-no for LC
-NO TOBACO ADVERTISING!

Tom · Post 21 May 2006, 19:32

Jason wrote:

No manchild, he'll get rammed over by millions of boats.

and that would be bad, why?

Perhaps unlimited engines or even 1.1l in 4s, set them a challenge. Maybe diesels?

No LC/TC. Active suspension, movable aero, slicks etc.

johny · Post 21 May 2006, 19:39

the main problem i see are costs (yes we want to see top class engeneering but there're more important things in life than f1) and solve "aerodependence"
that now with v8's are many corners just flat out, each year it'll be more eficcent and probably we'll see a bunch of rc f1's

Tom · Post 21 May 2006, 19:50

johny wrote:

there're more important things in life than f1

[Bluntly]-No there isn't!-
[Audience shocked by rudness of comment, walk away]