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manchild wrote:This thread has good effect on the forum - it acts like a magnet and attracts posts that would "pollute" other topics.

So keep on ranting :wink:
Good point and I agree, this is as good a place for a pissing contest as anywhere. :wink:
Racing is a funny set of contradictions where emotions drive the sport, but hard facts and engineering produce the results. When you're involved in racing, be it driving, or being a pit crew member, or making decisions, you push your emotions to the side and function like an unemotional machine. You just have to, or you will be beaten.
Of course when it's all over, then it's time for the motions to take over, be it elation or disappointment. And of course, all the time, it's fun and games for the fans, where if you don't have emotion, you're really not a fan.
And that's what divides and unites us all. We're passionate about certain drivers and teams, and hate or love others. But we're all fans of this great sport, and when the shouting and name calling is over, let's never forget it's this sport that brings us together.

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wazojugs wrote:
kilcoo316 wrote:I detest the idiots that waste thousands trying to turn a piece of s__t into something it is not, and will never be.
Have a look at http://www.barryboys.co.uk you will love this

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Cracker site man!!


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manchild wrote:This thread has good effect on the forum - it acts like a magnet and attracts posts that would "pollute" other topics.

So keep on ranting :wink:
MC, you are an incorregible optimist. :wink:

Let's pollute here:

I love each and every car on the face on earth. I like every pilot. I like this post. This is a positive thread. Repeat after me: I am not going crazy... I am not going crazy.... A Renault 4 is funnier than a Corvette... A Ferrari is a message from God... If it comes from Maranello, è bello... :lol:
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http://www.riceboypage.com - one of the first (AFAIK) ricer sites in the US

http://www.ricecop.com - a little more recent; includes some German cars
Bring back wider rear wings, V10s, and tobacco advertisements

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West wrote:www.riceboypage.com - one of the first (AFAIK) ricer sites in the US

http://www.ricecop.com - a little more recent; includes some German cars
I ripoff from Geoffrey James:

The Tao of Racing

Book 1 - The Silent Void

Thus spake the master engineer:

"When you have learned to tune the pilot to the car, it will be time for you to leave.''

1.1

Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all races. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Racing.

If the Tao is great, then the engine is great. If the engine is great, then the vehicle is great. If the vehicle is great, then the race is great. The fan is pleased and there exists harmony in the world.

The Tao of Racing flows far away and returns on the wind of morning.

1.2

The Tao gave birth to the road. The road gave birth to the engine.

The engine gave birth to the race car. Now there are ten thousand races.

Each car has its purpose, however humble. Each car expresses the Yin and Yang of racing. Each car has its place within the Tao.

But do not use solid axles if you can avoid it.

1.3

In the beginning was the Tao. The Tao gave birth to Space and Time. Therefore Space and Time are Yin and Yang of racing.

Engineers that do not comprehend the Tao are always running out of time and space for their races. Engineers that comprehend the Tao always have enough time and space to accomplish their goals.

How could it be otherwise?

1.4

The wise engineer is told about Tao and follows it. The average engineer is told about Tao and searches for it. The foolish engineer is told about Tao and laughs at it.

If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao.

The highest sounds are hardest to hear.
Going forward is a way to retreat.
Great talent shows itself late in life.
Even a perfect car still breaks.
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Book 2 - The Ancient Masters

Thus spake the master engineer:

``After three days without racing, life becomes meaningless.''

2.1

The racers of old were mysterious and profound. We cannot fathom their thoughts, so all we do is describe their appearance.

Aware, like a fox crossing the water. Alert, like a general on the battlefield. Kind, like a hostess greeting her guests. Simple, like uncarved blocks of wood. Opaque, like black pools in darkened caves.

Who can tell the secrets of their hearts and minds?

The answer exists only in Tao.

2.2

Grand Master Fangio once dreamed that he was a race car. When he awoke he exclaimed:
``I don't know whether I am Fangio dreaming that I am a race car, or a race car dreaming that I am Fangio!''

I think that's enough...
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DaveKillens wrote:When you're involved in racing, be it driving, or being a pit crew member, or making decisions, you push your emotions to the side and function like an unemotional machine. You just have to, or you will be beaten.
... But we're all fans of this great sport, and when the shouting and name calling is over, let's never forget it's this sport that brings us together.
Sorry, the last one...

8.4

Chassis met Engine on the road to Changtse. Chassis said: "You are Yin and I am Yang. If we travel together we will become famous and earn vast sums of money.'' And so the set forth together, thinking to conquer the world.

Presently they met Pilot, who was dressed in tattered rags and hobbled along propped on a thorny stick. Pilot said to them: "The Tao of Racing lies beyond Yin and Yang. It is silent and still as a pool of water. It does not seek fame, therefore nobody knows its presence. It does not seek fortune, for it is complete within itself. It exists beyond space and time.''

Chassis and Engine, ashamed, returned to their homes.
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Ciro Pabón I am very worried about what goes on inside that creative mind of yours :shock:
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NickT wrote:Ciro Pabón I am very worried about what goes on inside that creative mind of yours :shock:
My dear NickT: I am afraid you will have to stand in line in the queue of people-worried-about-me, like everybody else.
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When in Rome, be a Roman candle :roll:

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Ciro Pabón wrote:
Speechless? :D
"Whether you think you can or can't, either way you are right."
-Henry Ford-

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Scuderia_Russ wrote:
Ciro Pabón wrote:
Speechless? :D
Oops, sorry. Not exactly. I reposted and Tomba (always so funny!) choose this particular thread to be un-deletable.

Let me continue:

2.3

A engineer from a very large car company went to a car show and then returned to report to his manager, saying: "What sort of engineers work for racing companies? They behaved badly and were unconcerned with appearances. Their hair was curly and unkempt and their clothes were wrinkled and old. They crashed our hospitality suite and they made rude noises during my presentation."

The manager said: "I should have never sent you to the conference. Those engineers live beyond the physical world. They consider life absurd, an accidental coincidence. They come and go without knowing limitations. Without a care, they live only for their race cars. Why should they bother with social conventions?"

"They are alive within the Tao."

2.4

A novice asked the Master: ``Here is an engineer that never draw, documents or tests his designs. Yet all who know him consider him one of the best engineers in the world. Why is this?''

The Master replies: "That engineer has mastered the Tao. He has gone beyond the need for design; he does not become angry when the car doesn't work, but accepts the universe without concern. He has gone beyond the need for documentation; he no longer cares if anyone else understands his designs. He has gone beyond the need for testing; each of his race cars is perfect within itself, serene and elegant, its purpose self-evident. Truly, he has entered the mystery of Tao."

Third part waiting for requests...

Again, credits to Geoffrey James
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