Embarrassment for Hamilton? The Reborn Button...

[yace]

Agreed. Easier to beat a Trulli than to be half a second off Alonso

don't forget the 2004 season, trulli was ahead of alonso at renault, but flavio sacked him during the saison for... villeneuve!

sorry, i'm a new member, can you just explain me how can you estabish that it's easier to beat trulli than to be 1/2sec slower than nando?

[Robbobnob]

Because Alsono has those 6 tenths in his back pocket!!

[Giblet]

Agreed. Easier to beat a Trulli than to be half a second off Alonso

don't forget the 2004 season, trulli was ahead of alonso at renault, but flavio sacked him during the saison for... villeneuve!

sorry, i'm a new member, can you just explain me how can you estabish that it's easier to beat trulli than to be 1/2sec slower than nando?

Trulli was not canned for being slow in quali or at the start, but for fading in the races. Briatore felt that his performances dropped in the race. He let by a car on a last lap I think and that was the final straw. he has usually had good quali performances vs his teammates, notwithstanding last year.

[yace]

Because Alsono has those 6 tenths in his back pocket!!

lol! yeah that's the reason!

Trulli was not canned for being slow in quali or at the start, but for fading in the races. Briatore felt that his performances dropped in the race. He let by a car on a last lap I think and that was the final straw. he has usually had good quali performances vs his teammates, notwithstanding last year.

it was the "official" reason given by the team and flavio... he replaced him by villeneuve, the performances of villeneuve were not better than the ones of trulli! and neither the ones of fisichella was.

but i agree, trulli is at the end of his carreer, he is no longer what he was at renault and at toyota

[Jersey Tom]

World champion, veteran, experienced driver vs n00b. I'll take the veteran any day, particularly in all likelihood racing from back in the pack in traffic.

Potential is one thing. By definition it is something that hasn't yet happened. Accomplishment is another thing entirely.

Let's see Grosjean score a single WDC point before going on about him "embarassing" Kimi, hm?

[bergzy]

If history is a fore teller of things to come. 2012 will be an exciting season with Kimi back in the mix.

I expect to see a lot of collisions and blown engines/mechanical failures. Kimi is very consistent with that. The only driver more rabid was PJM (and to a slightly lesser degree Hamilton). When they were team mates, it was one of the most entertaining teams to watch. It brings back memories of when my parents got me 'smash up derby' for Christmas when I was a kid.

I know that Kimi won the WDC with Ferrai but it is my opinion, just my opinion, that he won because of the very overt rivalry with Alonso and Hamilton.

Grosjean? Hopefully, he will stay out of Kimi's way.

Kimi's car needs a horn.

[godlameroso]

Sometimes you learn more by dropping something and coming back to it later.

This is very true. After getting burnt you learn how to handle fire.

You really step back and look on your self after you get your wakeup call.. you see all your weaknesses come to light.

The same For raikkonen too. Does anybody else notice how sociable and cheerful Raikkonen is now with Lotus? He is giving so many interviews and actually fully fleshing out his thoughts! He is voluntarily smiling for the camera too! Remember this Is a man that barely cracked smile on the podium when he won the WDC in 2007. But now He is a more emotional man, and that is what he realized he lacked when he was fired by Ferrari, a company (and people?) where emotion is highly regarded.

Hard to be positively emotional when your team doesn't treat you well.

[raymondu999]

Grosjean showed some brilliantly awesome dominant displays in GP2 last year; but there were times when brain fade kicked in too.

[mx_tifoso]

He's 25 and has raced in multiple series before wining the GP2 title; it would be a shame if he didn't pull some "brilliant" moves on teenagers.

Raikkonen ftw here.

[lebesset]

surely a reasonable expectation for lotus this season would be to win the midfield battle again , behind the first four teams

clearly that will involve some real racing , so that grosjean having been doing that in recent seasons should have an advantage over kimi to start with !

but class will tell and kimi will soon get back into the swing of things so will gain the ascendancy over his team mate

wouldn't be amazed to see kimi on the podium this season given a lucky break

[Tyler]

If it means anything Kimi is very highly regarded by Ron Dennis and Ron is usually a very good judge of drivers.
I remember in 2007 when Ron gave the McLaren seat to Hamilton, he commented on how out of the established drivers there were only 3 that really excited him - Alonso, Montoya and Raikkonen

[raymondu999]

If it means anything Kimi is very highly regarded by Ron Dennis and Ron is usually a very good judge of drivers.
I remember in 2007 when Ron gave the McLaren seat to Hamilton, he commented on how out of the established drivers there were only 3 that really excited him - Alonso, Montoya and Raikkonen

I think in a way that's because he fits in with the McLaren ethos. McLaren seem to be a more clinical place to work, where everyone just does their own job and things are very structured - a slightly more cold blooded approach; and Kimi's nonchalance might mean that he didn't care much for things that went on.

[PlatinumZealot]

Yes He's just non procedural but I consider him cold blooded. China 2009?

[raymondu999]

Let me clarify. What I meant by cold blooded wasn't in terms of being a sociopathic murderer with no emotions. But rather in that he doesn't meddle too much with other things; just gets on with his job. I think McLaren is more "you guys just do the driving, we'll handle strategy calls and decisions on the pit wall." More segregated in terms of duties

[Richard]

LOL - his iceman nickname works because not only is it a national stereotype, but it also fits his personality very well. He was very cold blooded, his ideal weekend would be to arrive, got into the car, race, go home. No histrionics or petulant outbursts. No hot blooded vendettas either.

The interesting thing is that off track he had a reputation for hard partying. SO he was only an iceman at work.