Technology originated from F-1

[Afterburner]

Ceramic brakes?

[RacingManiac]

Ceramic brakes?

F1 don't use ceramic brakes....carbon/carbon brake was used on planes first...

[wunderkind]

Carbon fibre brakes and ABS came from the aviation industry. Commercial jetliners have been using them for decades.

[flynfrog]

AFAIK, first commercial plane to use CFRP was 767 and its first flight was in 1981. They only used it for simple parts such as elevator.

The very same year, Barnard build a CFRP monocoque...

who do you think built it?




Hercules Aerospace

[RacingManiac]

Inerter might be, if they can find someway to use it in the future.....

[Pandamasque]

......possibly ground effect (although it seems that it was rather widely disseminated and one can trace it back to hydroplanes etc).

Jim Hall's Chaparral cars had active front and rear aero, suspension-mounted rear wings and ground effect (with fans!) in late 60-s and early 70-s

And don't even think of adding stepped noses into the list. (google Fiat Multipla)

[xpensive]

Not sure I'd say semi-automatic gear boxes. Eh, maybe. Sequential shifting was certainly around before adaptation in F1. Perhaps electronic / hydraulic control of it as well.
...

I'd like to believe that the electro-hydraulic paddle-shift gearbox was pioneered by John Barnard on the 1989 Ferrari 640,
please don't deprive me of that comfortable illusion?

[noname]

F1 hasn't invented anything that has moved in to the mass market. Everything in F1 was borrowed from other sources.

Fully agree. Motorsport is not about creating new technologies, there is just no time and resources to do so.

It's all about application (and/or developing) of existing ones.

There is interesting interview with Mario Theissen in Sept/Oct 2011 edition of "Race engine technology" and he's very clear - "Motorsport cannot bear the burden of the development of future road technology".

[noname]

I'd like to believe that the electro-hydraulic paddle-shift gearbox was pioneered by John Barnard on the 1989 Ferrari 640,
please don't deprive me of that comfortable illusion?

Semi-automatic, pneumatically operated and electronically controlled, transmissions were used i.e. by Leyland in its buses much earlier.

[Lurk]

AFAIK, first commercial plane to use CFRP was 767 and its first flight was in 1981. They only used it for simple parts such as elevator.

The very same year, Barnard build a CFRP monocoque...

who do you think built it?




Hercules Aerospace

which was a chemistry company working with the NASA on rockets, not on airplanes.

BTW I agree with just_a_fan & noname to say that F1 borrowed things then "only" developped them - which is for me at least as important.
For exemple, battery technologie could improve a lot with formula one. F1 teams have huge constraints that push battery suppliers on a way they wouldn't have been otherwise.

[Bazza]

......possibly ground effect (although it seems that it was rather widely disseminated and one can trace it back to hydroplanes etc).

Jim Hall's Chaparral cars had active front and rear aero, suspension-mounted rear wings and ground effect (with fans!) in late 60-s and early 70-s

And don't even think of adding stepped noses into the list. (google Fiat Multipla)

Automobile wings were first raced on a Porsche in the '50s


Porsche, ever the opposite of whatever a fan of evolution is called, threatened to ragequit if the officials didn't ban said winged pig. So technically sports cars have the 'first cars to use aero properly' award.

[Pingguest]

What about KERS? Porsche uses Williams' flywheel system.

[Pingguest]

Since the late-1990s Formula 1 teams have been using very advanced software to determine the best possible pit stop strategy. That software also analyses the decisions taken by opponents. Currently that very same software is used by firms to determine their business strategy.

[RacingManiac]

For exemple, battery technologie could improve a lot with formula one. F1 teams have huge constraints that push battery suppliers on a way they wouldn't have been otherwise.

I don't know about that. F1 have the luxury of discarding/replacing bad cells if they need to between race/session, where as most warranty work will put a greater emphasis on long term reliability. They also greatly over estimated the strain on the KERS battery when they first start using them. For example, A123(the battery company) originally planned their business case with McLaren that the KERS battery will only last 1 race and they would be replacing them every race. It turns out that is not the case and they were able to use them 2-3 races or more. Which in the end made them lose money since they are not selling as much of them...

[timbo]

Since the late-1990s Formula 1 teams have been using very advanced software to determine the best possible pit stop strategy. That software also analyses the decisions taken by opponents. Currently that very same software is used by firms to determine their business strategy.

Interesting!