Pastor Maldonado recorded the fastest time on the penultimate testing day of the current 4-day session at Barcelona. The session was dominated by 4 red flags and was eventually cut short 3 minutes earlier than planned because Felipe Massa came to a halt in the pitlane.
what race simulation do you mean?Mr.S wrote:I dont think Mercedes is "chewing" the soft tyres. Mclaren & F-India have not done race simulations today & are on a much lighter load.
Nico was on full tank on softs in the race simulation. Besides Brawn said they are experimenting to see the degradation pattern as in which is better pushing in the 1st lap or not. Nico pushed very hard in his 1st lap.
Nico's Race Simulation. 57 Timed laps. 3 Laps into the pits & 3 Out laps. And 2-3 Lap wastage due to Red Flag.FrukostScones wrote:what race simulation do you mean?Mr.S wrote:I dont think Mercedes is "chewing" the soft tyres. Mclaren & F-India have not done race simulations today & are on a much lighter load.
Nico was on full tank on softs in the race simulation. Besides Brawn said they are experimenting to see the degradation pattern as in which is better pushing in the 1st lap or not. Nico pushed very hard in his 1st lap.
if you meant today's race sim by Rosberg: it was done entirely on HardsMr.S wrote:<snip> can you give me a source of trackside stuff???
BTW I screwed up. Nico's average Lap Time is 1.28.1 or 1.28.2. I wrote 1.26.2 which was rubbish.
1.28.2 is still faster than Webber & Michael's Average Lap time by a Good Distance. I dont have Vettel's data so I cant check wether his average lap time was actually in the 1-27's.
Try this link: http://f1tests.co.cc/archive.phpMr.S wrote:<snip> can you give me a source of trackside stuff???
BTW I screwed up. Nico's average Lap Time is 1.28.1 or 1.28.2. I wrote 1.26.2 which was rubbish.
1.28.2 is still faster than Webber & Michael's Average Lap time by a Good Distance. I dont have Vettel's data so I cant check wether his average lap time was actually in the 1-27's.
Hey Man. thanx. I will do the calculations for Vettel & Hamilton. Nico's avg. lap was 1.28.1 or 1.28.2. I re-did the stuff. Thanx for the link anyway.cirrusflyer wrote:Try this link: http://f1tests.co.cc/archive.phpMr.S wrote:ROFL mate I know you are a Mclaren fan,I am a Mercedes but can you give me a source of trackside stuff???
BTW I screwed up. Nico's average Lap Time is 1.28.1 or 1.28.2. I wrote 1.26.2 which was rubbish.
1.28.2 is still faster than Webber & Michael's Average Lap time by a Good Distance. I dont have Vettel's data so I cant check wether his average lap time was actually in the 1-27's.
You will be able to find times from previus days - including Vettels.
My bad! You are of course absolutely correct - I got it bass ackwards - Sorry about that! Helluva first post, huh!?Trocola wrote:I think it is just the other way. The old hard compound doesn't exist and last year's medium compound is now the hard one. The soft and supersofts are near the same (small changes) and the medium is totally new.fast_ian wrote:No sir!dren wrote:The soft and super soft are the same as last year right?
I'm almost sure Pirelli said only the hard would remain the same compound. They're all "squarer" than last year and supposedly they've closed the gaps between compounds; Hembery says they're shooting for ~0.6-0.8 seconds between 'em as that opens up more different strategy possibilities.
Cheers,
Ian
Well, then I guess you'd say then that Schumacher also is incapable of taking it easy around the track. There's a value at times in being able to lay down consistent lap times in testing, to eliminate that variable when comparing tires, setup, etc. That means that sometimes you don't drive 100%. If you look at what McLaren have been doing the past few days, you'll see that they've been running pretty much the exact same stint over and over and over - refueling most every time and trying different tires and setups. My guess is that their testing strategy is this: 1st test - systems tests and basic setup; 2nd test - tire wear and reliability; 3rd test - performance. I think they're paying special attention to tire wear and tire heat because of their exhaust, but that's has proven to be a contentious subject.Mr.S wrote:There was no textbook fanboy rant on Hamilton. It was a complement. Hamilton is someone whose ultimate speed cant be questioned & he gives his 100% every lap. I dont believe he is someone who knowingly would not drive the car at its 90-100% just to sandbag.
That & there is nothing called "leisurely driving" in an F1 track. That is pure BS. The other issue is provide me 1 source where they say Mercedes are going madly aggressive every lap & Mclaren are driving leisurely. I would gladly accept I wrote BS & I will eat my own words.
Otherwise there is no use making concocted stories.
And with that, we've got things like Windsor's and others' comments on Hamilton and Button being super smooth around the course, and I've seen a lot of photos of the Merc bouncing over curbs and the same of the Mac taking wide lines.Been there this morning, mostly on the outside of turn 10 and seeing the cars do most of sector three (turns 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 & 15)
Button's been on medium tyres the whole morning (at least, every time I saw him, he was on mediums) and the feeling was that the car is really planted on the ground, almost on rails. Sometimes I got the feeling he wasn't pushing as hard as he could, but it was pretty clear when he was on a fast one... cause the track's speaker inmediately announced that Button had just lowered the previous best lap.
One interesting thing was that, at turn 13, he was completely avoiding the kerbs and at 14-15 he touched them very slightly. That was in stark contrast to what Rosberg was doing, as he used inside kerb at 13. Conclusion? There's plenty of room for time improvements.
Button??? I dont expect anything less of him. I was talking about Hamilton.Pup wrote:Well, then I guess you'd say then that Schumacher also is incapable of taking it easy around the track. There's a value at times in being able to lay down consistent lap times in testing, to eliminate that variable when comparing tires, setup, etc. That means that sometimes you don't drive 100%. If you look at what McLaren have been doing the past few days, you'll see that they've been running pretty much the exact same stint over and over and over - refueling most every time and trying different tires and setups. My guess is that their testing strategy is this: 1st test - systems tests and basic setup; 2nd test - tire wear and reliability; 3rd test - performance. I think they're paying special attention to tire wear and tire heat because of their exhaust, but that's has proven to be a contentious subject.Mr.S wrote:There was no textbook fanboy rant on Hamilton. It was a complement. Hamilton is someone whose ultimate speed cant be questioned & he gives his 100% every lap. I dont believe he is someone who knowingly would not drive the car at its 90-100% just to sandbag.
That & there is nothing called "leisurely driving" in an F1 track. That is pure BS. The other issue is provide me 1 source where they say Mercedes are going madly aggressive every lap & Mclaren are driving leisurely. I would gladly accept I wrote BS & I will eat my own words.
Otherwise there is no use making concocted stories.
This was posted over at Atlas just this morning...
And with that, we've got things like Windsor's and others' comments on Hamilton and Button being super smooth around the course, and I've seen a lot of photos of the Merc bouncing over curbs and the same of the Mac taking wide lines.Been there this morning, mostly on the outside of turn 10 and seeing the cars do most of sector three (turns 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 & 15)
Button's been on medium tyres the whole morning (at least, every time I saw him, he was on mediums) and the feeling was that the car is really planted on the ground, almost on rails. Sometimes I got the feeling he wasn't pushing as hard as he could, but it was pretty clear when he was on a fast one... cause the track's speaker inmediately announced that Button had just lowered the previous best lap.
One interesting thing was that, at turn 13, he was completely avoiding the kerbs and at 14-15 he touched them very slightly. That was in stark contrast to what Rosberg was doing, as he used inside kerb at 13. Conclusion? There's plenty of room for time improvements.
That doesn't mean that the Merc sucks - it means that I don't think you can compare the times.
Opinion? Sure, but that's my point - last year and the year before, the best predictors of performance I think came from trackside opinions, not lap times. If you went by lap times, you'd have thought that Ferrari was going to walk it last year. But if you went by track observations, you knew that the Red Bull had it in the bag.
Feel free to dismiss all that if you want. Opinions are opinions. But don't call my posts BS, and don't accuse me of 'concocting stories'. Are we clear on that?
