Women Drivers

[kilcoo316]

Girls, don't get worked up about it. Statistically women have far less accidents than men so you've nothing to worry about.

Uhm, actually, I think women have more "crashes", but since they are minor parking dinks they aren't claimed on insurance - which is where the figures regarding more male crashes come from.

Basically for any of us chauvanist pigs, women crash more, but men make a better job of it

[pyry]

in finland, where i live, women do 90% of small crashes, where as men take responsibility for 90% of fatal crashes. men are generally better drivers(if somebody calls me a sovinist over this, they can stick it, arguing over statistical facts in the name of equality is hypocracy), but men are also men, meaning they generally tend to drive faster and take more risks. something that totally works me up is when someone(usually a older woman) is joining the motorway, and they rev up to 2500rpm on each gear and then join the motorway at 60-70 kmh on a 100kmh limit. they themselves think that "im driving safely without revving my car and as opposed to the speed maniacs revving up to 110 before joining", when in reality they are causing a damn serious danger when people with 30-50kmh more speed have to swerve or break to avoud collision. another observation not conserning women is that mercedes and bmw drivers hardly ever use turning signals, which also sucks.

[kilcoo316]

another observation not conserning women is that mercedes and bmw drivers hardly ever use turning signals, which also sucks.

PMSL



So thats common in Finland too?

[Ciro Pabón]

C'mon, you guys, I spent the best part of half an hour finding excellent woman drivers and now you start to bash...

Look, this is for England/96. Take a good, long look at the graph and tell me if there is any age group or kind of accident in which men are less dangerous than women:



I have the CD for USA, but I do not have time nor patience to look for more graphs. Believe me, they are similar in every country.

Tom is totally right: shame on you. I only hope you start to look for figures any time somebody gives you an opinion about any human group.

[kilcoo316]

Ciro - that data will be extracte from insurance claims.

I've seen stuff that has indicated that women have far more accidents, but there are no insurance claims as they are only small scrapes etc - therefore they are not registered.

[The information I learned this from was from a survey or something similar, that chcked a cross-section of people with their accidents/incidents claimed and unclaimed]

[zac510]

Look, this is for England/96. Take a good, long look at the graph and tell me if there is any age group or kind of accident in which men are less dangerous than women:

Why Ciro, Males over the age of 65! It also appears that the safest age to drive is as a male over the age of 74! They didn't have any accidents!

[pyry]

well here in finland there was a report based on insurance companies information as well as a thorough investigation, and the women lead in minor accidents by a mile, so please dont tell me its the same in every country when its not, especially if you base your assumption on usa and england.

[RH1300S]

Why Ciro, Males over the age of 65! It also appears that the safest age to drive is as a male over the age of 74! They didn't have any accidents!

Perhaps they're dead?

[Ciro Pabón]

[The information I learned this from was from a survey or something similar, that chcked a cross-section of people with their accidents/incidents claimed and unclaimed]

Well, I could say that maybe women are prone to remember and be truthful about this kind of small incidents...

We are talking here of adolescent rates three times higher, hope you remember, young lads, ehem...

And about the over 65, I was expecting it. Simple. RH1300 beat me to it, actually. They do not die when they are on the 16-24 bracket driving like crazy! This is why it is so hard to find men over 65 driving and they do not appear in the graph. A friend talk about darwinian evolution in action: bad and aggresive drivers die before they get married so the gene pool is slowly improving.

Actually, data is from the health report for England in 1996, wich treats accidents as another epidemy, which I believe is the correct way to evaluate them.

@pyry: interesting. What can I say? I cannot figure out an explanation. Maybe culture is what makes the "sex difference", as Finland, or at least Scandinavia have the fame of an advanced country in the sense of sex equality.

I wonder: would you say that women in Finland tend to drive as much as men and with more confidence than in other countries of similar income? You have to take in account that the figures I gave are per person, not per mile driven which, I confess, is the little trick behind these astonishing figures. Corrected figures are better for us, men, but that does not make us better than women after correction anyway, for the countries I am familiar with (as you correctly point out).

[kilcoo316]

We are talking here of adolescent rates three times higher, hope you remember, young lads, ehem...

And about the over 65, I was expecting it. Simple. RH1300 beat me to it, actually. They do not die when they are on the 16-24 bracket driving like crazy!

I know, I drive like an eejit from time to time and I really should know better.

[zac510]

Ciro, here in the UK a lot of people in that age bracket may have passed in WW2 rather than in their motor vehicles. The population (age distribution graph) is probably skewed due to this event too.

Accidents per/km, or accident per persons, grouped by age group would be a better figure, but I've never seen one.

[Ciro Pabón]

Accidents per/km, or accident per persons, grouped by age group would be a better figure, but I've never seen one.

Actually, zac510, if you look closely at the graph I gave, you can see is accidents per 100 persons (which should be enough to correct for WWII deceased). It is huge to have 7 accidents per every 100 persons per year.

This means that in less than in 15 years every young male has crashed seriously (15 years per 7 accidents per year equals 105 persons out of every 100).

Actually, this means that in the 9 years it take to go from 16 to 24, 63 young males (9 years per 7 accidents per year) out of 100 have had a serious crash! Compare this to 18 (9 years per 2 accidents per year) young females having serious crashes out of every 100.

When you go into accidents per kilometer, you have to make broad assumptions about kilometer driven per age group, something difficult to agree on.

I frankly do not know if there is something here of the "old lady driving" symptom or just an statistical blip... What I know is that really old people is as dangerous per mile driven as very young people, by reasons easily understood.

[Tom]

I'm always amazed by how high the teenage driver fatality rate is. After all they all seem to spend all their time going back and forth up the high street! Its ridiculouse.

[zac510]

Ciro, I didn't notice the per 100 persons statistic. I agree it is quite worrying that it is so high, especially considering that the driving standards I have witnessed here are far higher than those in my birth country Australia!

[Spencifer_Murphy]

I'm always amazed by how high the teenage driver fatality rate is. After all they all seem to spend all their time going back and forth up the high street! Its ridiculouse.

hahaha! thats so true. Every night I'm out at a club with my mates theres always a group of wallys who must drive around the one-way system outside a minimum (and I kid u not) of 18 times in the ONE night, with music so loud its as if they're trying to win a decebel contest with the club itself!!!

Do these people not have anything better to do?!