HRT 2012

[dice782]

The issues should be fixed shortly...

I really hope so its been such a disappointing start to the season. Pedro seemed pretty angry at HRT about the steering. Lets hope HRT don't make any more mistakes

[cbbcisace]

Both Pedro/Narain was angry but that has gone now, they where angry because the team couldn't really show what they car could do..

[donskar]

Classic! When you think it can't get any worse. HRT aren't too bad guys

Oh, they're bad all right. Worst F1 team ever? Maybe not, but they'll do for now.

[Pierce89]

Classic! When you think it can't get any worse. HRT aren't too bad guys

Oh, they're bad all right. Worst F1 team ever? Maybe not, but they'll do for now.

Definitely not the worst ever. Plenty of teams in the 70s-90s never made 107% cut.

[wesley123]

They were faster... with DRS and power steering.


Trocola

And why exactly were they faster? In the time sheets they were well down and I am sure DRS and power steering do not shed off 2 seconds of a lap.

I already know what you are going to say; 'But HRT has yet to extract the maximum out of their car!' Well I can tell you this was the first event the Marussia ran too so they did not either.

I do not understand your and their excuses for everything. Why wasnt DRS and power steering working? These pats probably were already done around the time their crash test failed, so why didnt it work? Also they constantly set themselves goals they do not meet, they barely come close to even making those. Why the sympathy for the team?

[cbbcisace]

It's easy to pick faults with the F112 when it's not fully running, let's wait for final judgement on the car once it's up and running with DRS and its hydraulics are in full use!

[beelsebob]

It's easy to pick faults with the F112 when it's not fully running.

Yes it is – not being fully running being the most obvious one

[Petroltorque]

The reason they are missing their targets is down to lack of money and inexperienced/incompetent management.
Around Albert Park DRS and KERS is worth around 1.5s a lap. Since HRT weren't running KERS any expected gain is a fraction of that.
As for qualifying at Sepang I'm not sure they'll make it.
The problems are;
An unsorted car.
Engineering a car with little input from Holzer.
Q1 qualification is now a reflection of true pace. The mid field runners have closed the gap to the front. Any mid field runner using the option has a knock on affect on the other runners, further squeezing the pole time.
Sepang is an aero dependent track that also puts a strong emphasis on mechanical grip. It will expose the weaknesses of any chassis.

[beelsebob]

The reason they are missing their targets is down to lack of money and inexperienced/incompetent management.

After two full years in Formula 1, they should not have inexperience or incompetence left. You may say they've just replaced everyone, but then the question of course is... Why dump all the experienced people?

Around Albert Park DRS and KERS is worth around 1.5s a lap. Since HRT weren't running KERS any expected gain is a fraction of that.

I don't believe you – the normal quoted benefit of KERS is more like 0.4 seconds a lap. Marussia aren't using KERS either.

[Petroltorque]

You will note that I had said the benefit of DRS AND KERS is 1.5s a lap. Whether or not you chose to believe that figure is your perogative. Those were the figures quoted by James Allen during FP3. I think he was referring to the benefit of free use of DRS in qualifying.

[cbbcisace]

It's easy to pick faults with the F112 when it's not fully running.

Yes it is – not being fully running being the most obvious one

So are you saying HRT lapping 2 seconds of the pace of Marussia is a true reflection of the F112?? Because I don't!!

[element]

They were faster... with DRS and power steering.


Trocola

And why exactly were they faster? In the time sheets they were well down and I am sure DRS and power steering do not shed off 2 seconds of a lap.

I already know what you are going to say; 'But HRT has yet to extract the maximum out of their car!' Well I can tell you this was the first event the Marussia ran too so they did not either.

I do not understand your and their excuses for everything. Why wasnt DRS and power steering working? These pats probably were already done around the time their crash test failed, so why didnt it work? Also they constantly set themselves goals they do not meet, they barely come close to even making those. Why the sympathy for the team?

I do believe that DRS and power steering can give you 2 seconds, specially during qualifying that you can use DRS at your discretion. I'm sure the Marussia's will improve also in Malaysia, so for HRT is not only doing their own improvement but passing the rival's improvement too.
Is not badly manufactured part the issue HRT has with DRS and PAS, the problem is a hydraulic overheating problem that prevents them to use servo-assisted devices, not easy to solve, btw, in Malaysia weather conditions, let's see what they can do on the fly.

As for why defend/accept excuses from a certain team/car, make yourself the same question, why criticize/don't buy the team explanation? Here we are not discussing about the high budget teams that are competing for the championship that may have major design flaws, etc... some of us just want to see the car develop cause we are curious about what kind of car they have produced on such a low budget, and we tend to be patient, and actually believe the team explanations on their issues.
Is just a matter of the low budget team you support, but I don't understand the attack mode, I support HRT and I don't think on posting the mistakes Marussia or Caterham do in their respective car threads. You can discuss about it, of course! but why the aggressiveness?

[NathanOlder]

No way 2 seconds a lap. 1 second a lap, still a little too much KERS would be around 4 tenths, and DRS another 4 tenths , maybe half a second at best ?

[cbbcisace]

Narain think that DRS is worth 0.9secs to HRT, don't forget the F112 had no set up work done to it at all, so I think that if the DRS/PS was working they would have been in the 107%.

[CottrellGP]

Good luck HRT, I wonder if they will be faster than the Marrusia cars?