Embarrassment for Hamilton? The Reborn Button...

[raymondu999]

Trulli is more like a less talented Button than a less talented Hamilton - Trulli's usual issues with making a Trulli train is about the car balance usually

[timbo]

Trulli is more like a less talented Button than a less talented Hamilton - Trulli's usual issues with making a Trulli train is about the car balance usually

Actually Trulli's train was a result of being able to push car right at the edge in qualy.

[raymondu999]

Yes - but when he's happy with the race balance he can push right to the edge in the races too.

[Hangaku]

I'm a big Lewis fan, but I have to say that the longer he goes on as he is, the harder he will find it to get out.

He absolutely shouldn't have his woman at the races, she can ONLY distract him. I don't get why he's even back with her. And his mum being there isn't good either. And certainly not Lenny Kravitz! No, he should be taking a leaf from Jenson's book, and trying to be the best professional race driver that he can be, and not the famous person who also drives, like he is being.

[Pierce89]

IMO he is his own worst enemy. Doesn't seem to have that steely resolve that many of the top drivers seem to have, instead he lets his under performance consume him.

In that regard he is more like a more talented Trulli or Fisichella. He can and is fast but only when in the right frame of mind. Trulli and Fisichella were perhaps a less capable of driving around car issues but are much the same. They are mighty fast (Trulli especially so over one lap) but find it hard to stomach when they aren't driving as well as they can.

I think Massa is a bit like that too but is coached along enough by Smedley that it's masked much of the time.

Maybe Smedley is losing his golden touch for getting Massa's head straight? I hope Lewis doesn't start sliding further down the rabbit hole like Massa has.

[beelsebob]

Maybe Massa has just sucked since being smacked about by a coil spring.

[JimClarkFan]

I think Massa has lost his nerve ever since he got hit by the coil spring, in the two previous seasons running up to that, Massa was fast.

On Lewis, I agree that HIS girlfriend should not be at the races, Lewis keeps making bad decisions as to who he has round him though. He needs to cut it all back so he can concentrate on racing. I also agree that he likes being famous, to his detriment.

[timbo]

On Lewis, I agree that HIS girlfriend should not be at the races, Lewis keeps making bad decisions as to who he has round him though.

Heh, yeah, last race seeing her made me think about all the difference the right (or wrong for that matter) woman can make in the men's life.

[JimClarkFan]

haha, the relationship Lewis has with that girl is destructive for many reasons. Jenson's relationship on the other hand seems to be stabilising.

Women huh?

[Pup]

I think that when we've reached the girlfriend-comparison point of this conversation, it's usually run it's course.

But Button's is prettier, and seems nicer.

[lebesset]

perhaps we should have a poll on who's girlfriend is prettier ?

could decide the championship , lol

[beelsebob]

perhaps we should have a poll on who's girlfriend is prettier ?

could decide the championship , lol

Button's by far!

[Caito]

perhaps we should have a poll on who's girlfriend is prettier ?

could decide the championship , lol

Button's by far!

Agreed.

[GrizzleBoy]

Honestly anyone who thinks Button is anywhere close to as good a driver as Hamilton in any conditions must have been hit in the head harder than Massa.

Wet or Dry, Michelins or Pirellis, passing or defending, Hamilton is far superior

So superior that Button managed to beat him pretty comprehensively last year. Not what I would call "far" superior at all. But of course, Button is "no where close to as good as Hamilton" is he?

Tbh, it was more like Hamilton defeated himself more than anything.

All Button had to do to get ahead was finish races while Hamilton was buy fighting with Massa and driving with reckless abandon.

If Lewis combines his speed with the mindset of getting his car home in one piece as opposed to "win! win! win! win everything! Gotta pass! Gotta win!", he'll put pressure on the new number one McLaren driver simply by finishing races as his car is obviously fast enough.

If it was the case where Button simply outdrove Lewis in head to head competition, then I'd say Button earned the right to be officially "better" than Hamilton.

As it stands, he basically beat someone who was driving like an imbecile at times and defeated himself way before Button had the chance to.

Like David Coulthard was saying to Jake Humphrey in the makeup room, you dont want to win against someone who's not providing competition, you want to win when everyone is giving their best, but your best was better.

This I think, is the proper season to judge the two in terms of driver skill and just watching Lewis' hands on the wheel, you couldn't rule out the possibility of him regaining his number one spot.

If he does become No.1 again, 2011 will be the year Jenson won because "Hamilton was a wreck on and off the track etc etc etc". At least in the media and general opinion.

If Button retains his dominance in the team, it will prove that he is indeed the better of the two in the team. The media are already pushing for him to be "the guy" this season and staying on top will solidify that.

I believe this post has proven quite accurate thus far this season.

[Red Schneider]

It's long been apparent to me that Hamilton is brilliant but not well-rounded. I would almost venture that he was more mature earlier in his career. 2007 was a masterpiece. Anyway, if he can take a couple pages from Prost's book he can probably be as good as anyone (certainly trounce Button), but if it's a personality defect then all bets are off.

If Hamilton leaves next year and McLaren make a Button/DiResta duo I'd be afraid of lost seasons like 2004 and 2006 where they have no idea what they're doing. And I'm not even a McLaren fan. (Perhaps because they've had a terrible case of number-twoitis for the last 15 years, but that's another story).