Red Bull RB8 - A-spec vs B-spec

[myurr]

That's what I meant. They have over 1220km (4 grand prix distances - 2 for each car) of running data for this current spec, and all the test data for the A-spec. Unless there was a clear benefit it wouldn't have stayed on. But my point was wondering if they took a "one step back, 2 steps forward" gamble. Ie mabe the B-spec is weaker than the -spec in some areas, but as a package overall it's quicker. If that makes sense.

Makes perfect sense. Everything in F1 is a compromise so I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone was able to show that the A-spec had some specific benefits. The team obviously believes that whatever the advantages of the b-spec are that they outweigh the disadvantages.

It's funny how many people are voting for the A-spec in this thread. They obviously think the team are fools!

[raymondu999]

Might not be. I think a consensus on one of the "steps back" taken by the team has been consistency/drivability. A car that has a slower "theoretical max laptime" but is more drivable could potentially still produce a quicker laptime.

With a new sidepod concept as such though - it could possibly be that the current spec provides more upgrade potential.

[amouzouris]

Might not be. I think a consensus on one of the "steps back" taken by the team has been consistency/drivability. A car that has a slower "theoretical max laptime" but is more drivable could potentially still produce a quicker laptime.

With a new sidepod concept as such though - it could possibly be that the current spec provides more upgrade potential.

I agree! but a very good driver will be able to extract everything from the undrivable car..so it will be faster..

[bhall]

Fernando Alonso begs to differ.

[raymondu999]

Might not be. I think a consensus on one of the "steps back" taken by the team has been consistency/drivability. A car that has a slower "theoretical max laptime" but is more drivable could potentially still produce a quicker laptime.

With a new sidepod concept as such though - it could possibly be that the current spec provides more upgrade potential.

I agree! but a very good driver will be able to extract everything from the undrivable car..so it will be faster..

I know what you mean - but I don't think it's about a "good" driver. I think it's just that category of drivers who can handle a diabolical car. Some drivers are just good in a good car. Case in point, JB.

[amouzouris]

Might not be. I think a consensus on one of the "steps back" taken by the team has been consistency/drivability. A car that has a slower "theoretical max laptime" but is more drivable could potentially still produce a quicker laptime.

With a new sidepod concept as such though - it could possibly be that the current spec provides more upgrade potential.

I agree! but a very good driver will be able to extract everything from the undrivable car..so it will be faster..

I know what you mean - but I don't think it's about a "good" driver. I think it's just that category of drivers who can handle a diabolical car. Some drivers are just good in a good car. Case in point, JB.

thats what i meant!!

[MIKEY_!]

It's funny how many people are voting for the A-spec in this thread. They obviously think the team are fools!

Voted for the A-spec because the B-spec is a development dead end, not because it's somehow slower.

[raymondu999]

the B-spec is a development dead end

How do you know this, pray tell?

[MIKEY_!]

In my opinion. I explained my reasons earlier in the thread.

[wesley123]

no you did not, you explained why the A-spec was better, not why the B-spec is a 'development dead end'

[myurr]

What I also find funny is looking back at all the people who said that the championship was over for the non-Red Bull cars when the B-spec was released and how they all now think Red Bull are stupid and should go back to the A-spec

[raymondu999]

Aye - that's quite true!

[bhall]

What I also find funny is looking back at all the people who said that the championship was over for the non-Red Bull cars when the B-spec was released and how they all now think Red Bull are stupid and should go back to the A-spec

In my defense, I'd been staring at the F2012 for weeks.

[N12ck]

I am not sure really,,, I think B Spec is best -the B spec makes great use of the coanda effect but it messes up the flow around the sidepods which in my opinion, goes against the RBR design philosophy a bit, you never know, this may be the correct route, or could be the complete wrong route,

[raymondu999]

I have no doubt Newey knows what he's doing. What caught me off guard and caused me to start this thread is how RBR have seemingly sacrificed a coke bottle which they have refined and perfected over 3 years