Time to ditch DRS?

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Time to ditch DRS?

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N12ck
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The problem with the cars is they cannot follow closely in each others wakes very well, the rear wing is the primary problem for this, the only solution to allow cars to run closely is ground effect, drs as I said when it all started us destroying racing, someone will avoid dive bombing down the inside before the drs activation line because if they overtook before the drs, the other car can come back at them with drs, it wrecks racing.
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ian_s
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i think DRS should be reversed, so that instead of a reduction in drag/down force, the drivers get a large increase in down force for any single corner per lap so that, if they have big enough balls, they can out brake the driver in front and also go through the apex faster.

it would have to increase both front and rear down force
the driver would press a button on the steering wheel on the straight before the corner where he wants to use it
this starts a light flashing on the rear of the car so drivers behind know whats coming, for safety
when he hits the brakes, flaps on the front and rear wings pop up, which stay up until he hits full throttle on the exit of the corner.

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raymondu999
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ian_s wrote:i think DRS should be reversed, so that instead of a reduction in drag/down force, the drivers get a large increase in down force for any single corner per lap so that, if they have big enough balls, they can out brake the driver in front and also go through the apex faster.
you mean like the front flap adjust they had through 2009 and 2010? :wink:
when he hits the brakes, flaps on the front and rear wings pop up, which stay up until he hits full throttle on the exit of the corner.
You mean airbrakes? :shock:
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Websta
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Why would you replace a gimmick with a gimmick? I don't really mind DRS, even though I do think it is gimmicky. I like the fact that it releases quick drivers caught in traffic, but I don't like how it diminishes the spectacle of overtaking at the head of the field.

Why not disable DRS for drivers in 5th position and above during the race? That's probably too contrived and even more gimmicky, but it would retain the aspect of DRS that I like and get rid of the aspect which I don't like. Problem solved :lol:

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raymondu999
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If you're up in P5 - arguably you're not really in traffic, generally speaking :lol:
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As much as it's a crutch I'd say keep it for now.

Slip streaming is good. Part of the reason the Indy 500 was a decent race. If you can't quite get it with the cars by themselves, DRS gives a little bit of that effect at least.
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Id like to see DRS being used as a attack and defence tool, so that say Hamilton had 2 DRS uses left yesterday and Alonso had 8 left, he could use them to stay ahead.

Ive always said that DRS should be a tool that is used spairingly and where ever a driver wants on a track, but id either do what WSR3.5 do and limit it to how many seconds a driver can use it for a race or limit the ammount of pushes a driver can use per race, so a driver has 300 seconds, of usage per race or had 20 pushes per race. Id also limit the usage in Quali as well to 60 seconds or 5 pushes. If it was limited to 300 seconds a race, yesterday it could have been used 4.28 seconds a lap over the race or miss a lap or two early on and you have more usage later on to attack.

DRS should ba allowed to be used in defence as well. Otherwise its going to look very fake and false after a while.

That was the greatness of the F-Duct, when 2 cars had it, the one in front could use it in defence as well as attack.

Thats my only gripe about DRS, the fact it cant be used in defence of a posistion, or to attack a driver thats 10 seconds ahead of you and you cant use it to attack him by gaining 2 seconds a lap to attack him in the final 2 or 3 laps of the race.

It needs to be used as a strategy tool, none of this 1 second bull, allow full usage but limit it and lets see who can perform best without needing it. It would put more on tyre management and fuel usage, and more of using KERS as well to overtake as well, as drivers would be using KERS as a defencive and offencive ttool with DRS as well.

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Cam
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ESPImperium wrote:DRS should ba allowed to be used in defence as well. Otherwise its going to look very fake and false after a while.

That was the greatness of the F-Duct, when 2 cars had it, the one in front could use it in defence as well as attack.
If they both have it, they both cancel each other out don't they? If you allow it for defence then you may as well not have it at all.
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Cam wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:DRS should ba allowed to be used in defence as well. Otherwise its going to look very fake and false after a while.

That was the greatness of the F-Duct, when 2 cars had it, the one in front could use it in defence as well as attack.
If they both have it, they both cancel each other out don't they? If you allow it for defence then you may as well not have it at all.
Its called strategy, a chess match. However if a limit is imposed, then the driver would try and not use it early on to attack at the sharp end, but lower down they would just to make their strategy work.

More ebb and flow and more drama later on.

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I'm totally against DRS.
Wasn't F1 supposed to be the pinnacle of racing and technology? I don't see anything technological in a piece of carbon that flips at a push of a button.
What they should do is remove DRS and instead allow KERS to be the push-to-pass button that only the guy that is doing the overtaking can use. Right now everyone uses KERS at the same points of the track and no advantage is gained or lost. If overtaking is too easy/hard, the bonus power of KERS can be adjusted (it can, right?) for each race, depending on circuit layout and so on.
In my view, the F1 had a great piece of technology to play around and tweak (also, "road car-relevant"), but the guys that make the decisions decided to introduce a gimmick that brings the sport nowhere and KERS became just another button on the steering wheel for the pilots to push.

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DRS is a joke.... schumacher did a proper racer overtake on kobayashi at the hairpin....

then the drs dection zone is after the hairpin enabling kobayashi to just sail on past #-o

whos stupid idea was it to put the detection zone after the hairpin instead of before it? :roll:

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snoop1050 wrote:DRS is a joke.... schumacher did a proper racer overtake on kobayashi at the hairpin....

then the drs dection zone is after the hairpin enabling kobayashi to just sail on past #-o

whos stupid idea was it to put the detection zone after the hairpin instead of before it? :roll:
Before it would be just as bad, my preferred location at canada would be the start/finish straight.

sknguy
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beelsebob wrote:Before it would be just as bad, my preferred location at canada would be the start/finish straight.
That's where I hope they place it at the Austin circuit. On the front straight and not the long back straight.
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sknguy wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Before it would be just as bad, my preferred location at canada would be the start/finish straight.
That's where I hope they place it at the Austin. On the front straight and not the long back straight.
Agreed, that, or possibly the short straight before the long back straight.

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To be honest though, the layout of the Austin circuit seems like it would be better without any DRS zone.