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Still is, and not even many in North America are watching a comparable F1 open-wheeled series. No one outside of the US is interested in NASCAR. Indycar had a brief shining moment in the early 90s where that global exposure could have happened, but alas, it was flushed down the toilet. There is a salutary lesson in the whole Indycar/CART debacle for Formula 1 if they're not careful.xpensive wrote:Utter nonsense I'm afraid, when MrE first entered F1 in 1970 there was nothing rivaling the series xposure world-wide, the only racing remotely close was the USAC and CanAm, but that was North American, US and Canada that is, only.
bhallg2k wrote: I hate to burst your stereotyped bubble, but the Jersey in which Delta Topco is based is not New Jersey; it's just Jersey. Or old Jersey, if you like. Even then, it's still mostly owned by CVC Capital Partners based in London.
These shell games have absolutely nothing to do with F1's direction anyway. It's just the paper trail.
And for what it's worth, profit has been the primary motive behind F1 for a very, very long time now. No one goes to Bahrain or Shanghai for the view.
What sterotype bubble?munudeges wrote: Still is, and not even many in North America are watching a comparable F1 open-wheeled series. No one outside of the US is interested in NASCAR. Indycar had a brief shining moment in the early 90s where that global exposure could have happened, but alas, it was flushed down the toilet. There is a salutary lesson in the whole Indycar/CART debacle for Formula 1 if they're not careful.
I've seen CVC referred to as US company many times, though you are correct. I suspect the confusion lies with the fact that CVC is a spinoff of Citicorp so at one point they were indeed American. CVC stands for Citicorp Venture Capital. But really, these guys can count in dollars just as well as pounds or euros.bhallg2k wrote:I hate to burst your stereotyped bubble, but the Jersey in which Delta Topco is based is not New Jersey; it's just Jersey. Or old Jersey, if you like. Even then, it's still mostly owned by CVC Capital Partners based in London.
These shell games have absolutely nothing to do with F1's direction anyway. It's just the paper trail.
If he does end up having an international arrest warrant moved on him I wonder just what kind of impact that will have on F1. Even the stigma attached to it is doing damage one would think.Jailed F1 banker Gerhard Gribkowsky's lawyer Daniel Amelung said it is obvious Ecclestone got "cold feet" about risking German custody by making the trip from London.
Sentiments i would normally share, although going from silverstone to the german GP showed me that even the german gp had very large ampty seating areas, of course nowhere near the pathetic grandstand at the malay gp that makes us sick, but still it shocked quite a bit, 3/4 germans in f1 all capable of a gp win and yet the circuit wasn't sold out... i dont think even bernie could put people off that much.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:F1 sells itself. Look at Bernie's disastrous expansion policy....empty grandstands in far flung territories...and France nor Portugal or South Africa have GP. Countries where you could sell out.
Bernie drives a deal for himself and doesn't give a monkeys about F1or the fans.
Why?
Look at his past record for that.
F1 succeeds in spite of Bernie Ecclestone.
Cam wrote:Bernie Ecclestone a Hockenheim no show?!
If he does end up having an international arrest warrant moved on him I wonder just what kind of impact that will have on F1. Even the stigma attached to it is doing damage one would think.Jailed F1 banker Gerhard Gribkowsky's lawyer Daniel Amelung said it is obvious Ecclestone got "cold feet" about risking German custody by making the trip from London.
If Tilke gets his hands on the Nordschleife, that'll be the end of that track as we know it.Nando wrote:He wants to buy Nordschleife and will do everything he can to save it.
My bet is that if Bernie gets to buy the track he´ll go straight to Tilke.
And some years later we will see F1 on the Green Hell once again.
I would love to see F1 go back there.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/27/eccl ... -outright/
I'd love to see F1 run there again, but what you mention regarding the fire/ambulance crew is the hardest thing to maintain there. Not to mention, they would need more than 1 medical helicopter on site.Nando wrote:I don´t think Tilke wants to mess with the layout. Just make is Tilkenized.
Ideal would be to keep the narrow barriers on straights and then just open up the high speed areas with some run off.
Honestly if i could choose between no Nords and Nords i take Nords every day, even if Tilke has got his hands dirty with it.
Just imagine a repave, slightly bigger runoffs in certain high braking zones and F1 is good to go.
You would need one hell of a fire/ambulance crew but it would also be the best track in the world and to see F1 cars go around there at full speed would be nothing short of amazing.