Vettel In Trouble

[marcush.]

alonso ..wasn´t alonso the guy who blackmailed Ron Dennis for getting first service over Hamilton leading to Dennis opening acces to all the email to FIA and receiving a huge fine ?
I´d think Drivers are little or big bastards when it comes to carve out a ever so small advantage solely for themselves.They talk about team ONLY for the purpose to win and feed their own ego.

If Vettel does have a conspiracy issue in his head ,he should have a word with a brain doctor ..it is complete nonsense and a two times world champion should answer on the track and not behave like a whiner ...

[Shrieker]

While I do not agree with the latter part of your post, the first paragraph is spot on.

Wait a minute. That makes you a brainless idiot does it not

[Raptor22]

Claiming that the FIA conspired to bring out a safety car to ruin his race is a bit too much don't you agree? I don't think any kind of "probation" for such comments is appropriate but a reprimand behind the scenes would suffice, IMHO.

he can say what he likes, this thing called freedom of speech allows it

[Slife]

Claiming that the FIA conspired to bring out a safety car to ruin his race is a bit too much don't you agree? I don't think any kind of "probation" for such comments is appropriate but a reprimand behind the scenes would suffice, IMHO.

he can say what he likes, this thing called freedom of speech allows it

Freedom of speech is irrelevant because that is between government and civilian. Vettel can say whatever, and the FIA as a private organization can choose to issue statements showing their displeasure over Vettel's words.

[NowyszRacing6]

I think this is being made into more of an issue than it should be. How could you expect someone to give up what should have been a race win for a dumb alternator problem without showing some frustration? I say he has every right to throw his gloves and the FIA need to stop being so uptight. Plus nobody said anything about hamilton punching his steering wheel and throwing it out of the car did they? (maybe i missed it if they did, lol)

[kalinka]

Showing some frustration is OK for all. As somebody said earlier here, if he just throwed out his steering wheel and called it a day, it would be OK. The problem is with his accusation of FIA for deploying a safety car.
Firstly, if he was so much faster than the others, I don't see why he should be in trouble with the safety car in first place.
Secondly , Grosjean's case showed that the alternator could fail regardless of that. His alternator has gone long afrer the SC period IIRC.
I agree with others that we just saw the glimpse of true Vettel. He's apparently not good at anger management. I think he remained a crash-kid as they called him. It's just that he was so much in front in last two years that he barely have to deal with others in close fight. He's a bit hot headed, but sure he can learn how to deal with it.
And yes, Helmut Marko backing up his silly statement was just fuel in the fire.

[Raptor22]

Claiming that the FIA conspired to bring out a safety car to ruin his race is a bit too much don't you agree? I don't think any kind of "probation" for such comments is appropriate but a reprimand behind the scenes would suffice, IMHO.

he can say what he likes, this thing called freedom of speech allows it

Freedom of speech is irrelevant because that is between government and civilian. Vettel can say whatever, and the FIA as a private organization can choose to issue statements showing their displeasure over Vettel's words.

So you're suggesting a private organisation has more power of the constitutional rights of people than the government of a country WOW!!
I figured the gastapo was disbanded but it appears to be alive and well on F1Tech

They can

[Richard]

Sure he has freedom of speech, but equally the FIA is entitled to apply a penalty for bringing the sport into disrepute (or whatever they call the sanction)

This is hypothetical because we've not actually seen any evidence that the FIA have taken action.

ps not all countries have constitutional rights to freedom of speech, and not all countries have constitutions.

[Mandrake]

Before jumping on any driver's comments to the media after a DNF one should always have an eye on the whole picture......

Imagine Vettel in the cockpit, he pulls away to a massive gap. Then some smaller incidents happen around him and there debris on the track. Then somewhen later, there is debris again on the track and suddenly they call for a SC.

If you then think abut how the media and everyone praises the current season as one of the most exciting ones where no car can really run away, in the heat of the moment one can easily think about how that SC would have made everything more interesting. This leads to comments like the one given by Vettel.

And if you're honest with yourself, we discuss every stewards' decision, we always question the FIAs behavior, but if a driver does it like we do, it's not allowed? Strange world this is....

[Pup]

Vettel says he didn't say those things he said...

"I never said it was deliberate," Vettel told reporters at Silverstone. "I said from my point of view it was not necessary. But I'm not making the decisions. The race direction is making that decision, they decide when it comes out. If they consider it to be necessary, we accept it.

The TC culture at Red Bull never ceases to amaze me.

[GrizzleBoy]

S.Vettel:

I'm not saying the safety car was there to deliberately ruin our race, I'm just saying it was there to break our necks.......

What is the point of telling blatant lies for all to see, all to save face for one interview?

[DaveKillens]

So you're suggesting a private organisation has more power of the constitutional rights of people than the government of a country WOW!!
I figured the gastapo was disbanded but it appears to be alive and well on F1Tech

They can

As a condition of my employment, I cannot say anything negative about my employer or bare any dirty laundry (if it did exist). If I broke that condition, I would be liable for termination from my employ. It's not about human rights or constitutional rights, it's about business. If you don't adhere to the rules, you get thrown out of the sandbox.

I still retain my constitutional rights to free speech, I could say anything I want, and not find myself in prison or at the receiving end of a firing squad. But my employer may not be pleased with my actions and words, and they may not wish to do business with me.

[bhall]

Yeah, firing, suspending or otherwise reprimanding someone is free speech, too.

[Raptor22]

So you're suggesting a private organisation has more power of the constitutional rights of people than the government of a country WOW!!
I figured the gastapo was disbanded but it appears to be alive and well on F1Tech

They can

As a condition of my employment, I cannot say anything negative about my employer or bare any dirty laundry (if it did exist). If I broke that condition, I would be liable for termination from my employ. It's not about human rights or constitutional rights, it's about business. If you don't adhere to the rules, you get thrown out of the sandbox.

I still retain my constitutional rights to free speech, I could say anything I want, and not find myself in prison or at the receiving end of a firing squad. But my employer may not be pleased with my actions and words, and they may not wish to do business with me.

The FIA don't employee Sebastian Vettel... Red Bull Racing does.

[xpensive]

Freedom of speech? Ha, doesn't anyone here remember MrM and his "bringing the sport into disrepute" clause,
something just as efficient as "Un-American Activities" or "Counter-revolutionary" ever was to shut people up?